The old plex is dead

The problem plain and simple is that plex is pushing their content features over the features people bought the life time pass to support.

More and more our ability to control the system has bencome less and less.

The new app update is specifically designed to inject their content. This inherently degrades the quality of accessing our content. Not to mention, unless you update to the latest server version, you cant even access your content over the app anymore. If you update your server, you then get locked in to the latest version.

As i said in my original post. Plex is dead. Either you see it or you dont. If you dont, you’ll see it soon enough as they degrade the service for self hosted content even further than they have.

God forbid you reach out to the community and explain you need more cashflow to cover bills. But thats not what this is about. This isnt covering bills for a service litterally designed around its users needs. This is functionally stripping a community centric software and purpose fitting the system to squeeze revenue out of a larger trend. They could of gone both routes, but their intention has been made clear.

Good luck everyone.

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seriously its time to move on - your suggestions are pure garbage and there are multiple people telling you the same thing. You aren’t providing anything useful - just telling people to deal with a broken product lol

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You’re right man. Infuse can’t airplay or chromecast. Such a garbage suggestion. Infuse chromecasting and airplay must just be an anomaly that works only for me and my family.

Sorry for suggesting video playback and codec selection worked on the new Plex app as well. I guess that’s another anomaly and only I am able to use properly. Also my phone must be broken for downloads to be working and actually fast right?

Heck maybe my experience with the new Plex app is a hallucination?!

Extremely well put.

This isn’t about the costs to maintain a small dev team of 10-15 programmers who are maintaining Plex - The Local Media Server.

It’s about maintaining a 100+ team of staff to maintain Plex - Online Streaming Hub (that also has a local media feature)

Staff whose job is to score marketing deals, arrange streaming packages for “Live TV via Plex” and sell movie rentals directly in app for $10 each via partnered services, while they encourage you to use their Watchlist feature so they can sell that data to marketing firms. And programmers who… support these efforts almost exclusively, as local streaming takes a serious back seat, and user requests that have thousands of supporters over half a decade of requests are still ignored, and previously core features are just… discontinued.

Plex isn’t a media server software company anymore. It’s a Media Streaming company that has a legacy server software package they want to convert users from.

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“Do some of you ever think that maybe YOU are using Plex wrong?”

Really? People who’ve used Plex for 5, 10, even 15 years suddenly forgot how to use it, right at the same time the app broke basic features like casting and remote access? That’s your logic?

Let’s be clear: casting from a phone to a TV (Chromecast or AirPlay) isn’t some fringe, “wrong” use case, it’s one of the most common and intended features Plex offered. It was reliable, fast, and user-friendly, especially compared to digging through sluggish TV menus with a D-pad remote. You’re acting like wanting to cast from your phone is a user error, when it’s literally a feature Plex advertised and built an ecosystem around.

“Even the most basic smart TVs have a usable Plex app.”

Sure, if you enjoy lag, a horrible search experience, and clunky navigation. Have you ever tried typing a search query using a TV remote’s D-pad? Or scrolling through hundreds of titles one-by-one? I always have my phone with me (I even use it as a TV remote app and yes the Plex mobile app is still faster), while the actual TV remote is constantly missing under couch cushions or who knows where. On most TVs, the Plex app is slower, buggier, and feature-limited compared to mobile. That’s why so many of us intentionally use our phones to browse and cast. It’s not a mistake, it’s the smarter choice because phones are faster, more responsive, and infinitely easier to search and navigate with. Smart TVs are the compromise option, not the “best” one.

“I’m just saying better solutions are available.”

If your “solution” to broken Plex features is “buy more expensive hardware,” then you’re not offering help, you’re just flexing your gear setup. Not everyone wants to drop $100–$200 just to restore basic functionality Plex used to have. The fact that you can afford or tolerate that doesn’t make it reasonable, it just makes your experience the exception, not the standard.

I’m actually a minimalist. In my view, I prefer systems that work with as little hardware as possible. Fewer devices mean less clutter, fewer points of failure, and a more elegant solution.

“People should adjust how they use the app.”

No. The app should continue to work the way it did when people paid for a lifetime license. You don’t change the deal years later and expect customers to cheerfully “adjust.” That’s not how trust works. That’s not how good software works. And that’s not how you treat loyal users.

The real issue here

Most Plex users just want what they already had: a reliable self-hosted media server app that works with their existing setup. They don’t want workarounds, third-party apps, or equipment upgrades. They want the product they paid for to continue functioning as advertised.

As @ShadowPDX correctly pointed out: Plex is prioritizing their streaming content over the self-hosted features that built their user base. They’re degrading user experience to push their own services.

This isn’t about users failing to adapt. It’s about Plex fundamentally changing the product people bought into. When you sell a “lifetime” subscription based on certain functionality, then remove that functionality years later, you’ve broken customer trust.

Your setup works for you and that’s awesome. But scroll through these forums and you’ll see hundreds of threads from users (including me) experiencing broken functionality.

I’ve been a Plex Lifetime Pass holder for over 8 years, and I’ve worked in tech for over 31 years including more than 13 years at IBM as a systems engineer, IT specialist, and cognitive quality analytics consultant. And after IBM, I built mobile apps and websites.

I don’t know everything, especially about Plex. We’re all constantly learning. There are many Plex users far more knowledgeable than I’ll ever be, and even they’re reporting these problems. But when someone with my background can’t make basic features work that worked perfectly a couple of weeks ago, shouldn’t we take a hard look at Plex itself? This was always meant to be easy and “just work”. That was the whole point. When experienced technical users are running into walls, it’s not user error, it’s product failure.

The evidence is overwhelming that the new app is failing most of us. Your personal satisfaction doesn’t negate everyone else’s legitimate problems.

You’re not defending Plex. You’re defending your personal setup and pretending it’s universal. It’s not. Most people don’t want to buy a new streaming box, install alternate apps, or re-learn how to use a service they’ve supported for years.

Stop gaslighting the community into thinking it’s their fault Plex broke. It’s not.

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There are a lot of problems with the new app. It’s clear to anyone who uses it that it really is unfinished, it feels like it’s still in beta (maybe even alpha, lol)

There is no way Plex is reversing course at this point. They’re not going to re-release the old app (altho I was hoping they would). We’re stuck with this new app until they fix all the bugs and add the missing features. How long’s that gonna take is anyone’s guess (a month or two? four?)

So people have a choice to make:

  1. Leave Plex and use a different media server.
  2. Keep using Plex and complain about it in the forums.
  3. Revert to the old app in hacky ways.
  4. Wait.

From what I understand they really did a lot of recoding under the hood to make the development cross-platform. So it’s not just a new UI, there’s a lot of stuff under the hood that changed and a lot of things that broke. That’s why there’s still a lot of missing features.

This was really supposed to be an improvement to the Plex software, the problem is that they released it too early. When I say “they” I mean the people on the top—not the devs or the mods. So no matter how much you ■■■■■ and moan at the devs, they’re ultimately powerless in regards to this decision.

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I like the new app, I lack some features sure but on Apple TV (TestFlight beta) it’s literally game changer that it no longer stutters !!!

I’ve been reading along in this thread since my Android-App updated automatically yesterday evening. It was a horrible experience - not because the layout changed, but because it broke casting to a Chromecast device connected to a TV that is not smart. It worked - sort of - but the subtitles wouldn’t show or wouldn’t obey the settings in the app. It was frustrating.

To the people saying “just buy a new TV” - no. Not an alternative. The device works just fine.

It’s extremely sad to see that Plex has turned into a company with people in the upper (and probably middle) management who are apparently not technical, not users of Plex themselves and especially do not have any experience with what it is that the users of Plex appreciate when it comes to their product. Listen to the people with the most experience of the product first, not to the dollars!

Working in IT myself, I see the same problem in many companies with people focused on their monthly recurring revenue instead of delivering a good product. Push out a non-functional product in the next sprint rather than performing good QA. And the poor developers and technical people in your organization are being pushed to contribute, because the team needs to meet the KPIs.

I hope you (Plex) will hear the userbase and stop the “Apple-ification” of your company.

Unfortunately, since no practical alternatives are out there, I got to pick option number four from ChristianKent’s post: Wait.

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That’s not my logic that’s the truth. If you want remote streaming and don’t want to pay for Plex Pass just download a VPN and you’ll still be able to access remote streaming. Want airplay and casting still? Download Infuse which is the better mobile app anyway for $2 a month or $12 a year. If on Android you can side load the original Plex APK pretty easy as many people have done here on the forums. No need to buy a new device or TV or any expensive setup. Most solutions are totally free or super cheap.

I am approaching 2,000 movies in my library now and have no trouble navigating it with a remote. The Apple TV 4K is 4K 120hz so just as fast as my Iphone and so is the Ugoos at 1080p 120hz for the UI. I will agree with u that most TVs have a clunky remote, but for the last 10 years most remotes have voice commands for search so you don’t have to manually type in search queries. It’s just unwillingness to change that keep most people from having a stable Plex experience.

Because most people reject the idea of changing or upgrading how they use Plex. So what happens to those users who run ancient devices? They experience Plex in a way that is not good at all and when Plex starts to update the app and move on to a different design, those users are stuck in the past using 10-15 year old workflows instead of keeping up with current technology.

Well that is the fault of the user and not Plex as a company! If stable setup’s are available for Plex, and you’re choosing unstable ways to use the product, whose fault is that?! If you fail to seek out solutions to make your home setup stable and enjoyable that is your personal problem, not Plex.

Plex is broke for you and certain people. Not the entire community. Most users have no need to even come to the forums because they don’t have issues.




How this can be viewed as so terrible and trash is beyond me. When you open the app you are 1 click from Movies or TV. You can turn off online media sources so you see zero Plex content. Very good design!

And everything plays just fine on my iPhone 14 Pro Max. I can seek around no issue, play/pause or use Picture in Picture while using other apps. So while I agree it’s missing a few features like airplay/chrome casting and double tap for rewind-FF, the app is stable and works well so far. It will only get better! This is a preview not a final build.

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It looks like ■■■■, I don’t want some afterthought side scrolling 3 libraries at a time bar that doesn’t load half the time, why can’t I have all my playlists in one spot, why can’t I download playlists anymore, why do I need a second app to suck down storage space for media that was already handled perfectly?

You can jog up and down this thread sucking on plex’s taint all you want, but this new update is a bunch of useless garbage that should have never been done.

Let’s all just hope that plex learns the “New Coke” lesson they seem to be setting themselves up to learn.

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Also it’s not a preview. It’s a release version. Stop gaslighting.

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You’re absolutely INSANE!!! This is NOT AT ALL a “preview”. It was launched out of “beta” a month ago with a forced deadline, just like what they had happen when they launched a forced rollout with Plex Discovery/New Plex Metadata Agents last year. OMG I can’t believe you actually think this is a preview when Plex Inc decided to roll this out to more than 10 MILLION USERS!!! You’re nuts to think any of this is normal and should be acceptable. NONE OF THIS IS OKAY.

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Well Plex is saying something different than you. “ Test-drive a preview of our newly reimagined, redesigned Plex experience

Plex themselves call it a preview. Stop with the Gaslighting accusations when someone has a different opinion than you. Test-drive a preview of our newly reimagined, redesigned Plex experience

Calling the sky green does not magically make it green dude.
They pulled the old version and released a new version. It is not a preview but the release version by definition.

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It’s still a preview release though doesn’t matter if it’s released to everyone. Video Games do this all the time when they release “early access”. It’s not the official build of the game but everyone is able to test it as they progress over time to the official build.

Nowhere is Plex saying this is the final build and this is what the app will be.

False equivalent.
A 15 year old game does not all of a sudden release a preview while the old game is not playable anymore and half the features are missing to paying customers. That would be bonkers.
Of course it’s not the ‘final’ build because there never is a final build as long as the company exists. What are you even talking about, it is like you do not understand the words you are using.

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I don’t get along with Orko but I have to agree with him on this issue. There is no technicality here with the release of the new app UI. It’s a PUBLIC RELEASE with a SLOW rollout, starting with the mobile apps FIRST. There is no legitimacy behind the “PREVIEW” term as it’s just a PREVIEW of the UI and what’s to come. HOWEVER, the rollout of the mobile apps on iOS and Android are OFFICIALLY out of TESTFLIGHT and Android BETA testing and are now OFFICIAL PUBLIC RELEASES.

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And unfortunately, THAT has become too widely common practice that customers/users have now let that become acceptable to them, it doesn’t mean it should be the right thing to do. Do we all go to McDonalds and order a BigMac with all the ingredients or have we now accepted that it’s okay for McDonalds to charge the same price for the full sandwich but only give us just the top and bottom buns without the burger and other toppings?

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