Watch together going away in app

I am disappointed in the team at Plex. This announcement was clearly a shock to many and deserved more than an e-mail (which some of us did not get despite being on the email list) and an announcement in a locked thread.

Engage with the community ouside of just the Fireside chat before Plex Week. Help us understand why support is ending and open a dialogue. If it is monetary, technical, or some other reason explain that to us instead of some vague post about not fitting with the new experience.

Some of the team do a great job om this forum, so I am very surprised there is not more of a conversation about this.

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Thanks for not emailing me.

This a decision that rivals Hitler’s grand idea to invade the Soviet Union in the winter. 5 years of constant Plex usage, and this is the final straw. I paid monthly for multiple years, I don’t know the specific amounts but the amount of money I have given easily surpasses $300. All the while options like Jellyfin continued to get update after update. Jellyfin now has postgres support in a PR and its addition is quite imminent on the horizon, so I will no longer need to have 100 SQLite databases on my NAS. Plex is the last superfluous SQLite on my server wasting my resources and hence electricity and hence heat, for nothing. Jellyfin’s SyncPlay works just fine for me and my friends, so oh well. Guess we will not use an app we prefer more and will use the one that doesn’t actively hate us.

The last few years of Plex updates have been so insignificant, many of which hurt the experience. All the discover stuff has search worse, and slower. The addition of all these social features that bloat the app. I don’t mind some of these things existing but their addition is far from graceful or respectful to those who simply want a home media server. I can’t think of one new Plex update that wow’d me. We only just got the ability to not be forced to encode HEVC to AVC when transcoding audio/subs/whatever for entirely no purpose whatsoever. How could that have taken so comically long. I am at a loss for words for the continued direction of this company and how it can time after time, over and over, add irrelevant garbage that has almost no effect on the actual user experience, and remove beloved features.

Why does the DVR features limit you to a tiny amount of channels, so tiny I cannot even remember the limit, but its far less than the cable box I wanted to use would give me, when I tried it.

You get rid of plugins despite no one’s desire for that.
We still don’t have NFO support, which we were told would be added…yet…a load of months (been so long I forgot when you said it) later and still don’t have it, the most common video metadata file format that predates Plex significantly.

Why do we still not have the ■■■■■■■ ability to set the god damn mother ■■■■■■■ default quality from the server side after its been requested for years and years and years, people have complained about that for well over half a decade?

How come downloads have worked so incredibly and laughably bad, for the last 5 years I’ve been a daily Plex user. Findroid for Android (3rd party mobile app for Jellyfin) has downloads that work so well that using the Plex one’s would have you question if you’re an idiot for wasting all the time and effort. Findroid’s downloads while great, don’t allow you to set transcoding settings like Plex’s does, which is a point towards Plex Downloads, except for the fact that Plex Downloads doesn’t seem to support downloading, so who cares.

You won’t lose any money because I was an idiot and bought lifetime, but you’ve lost a user, and you will no longer get the countless, endless referrals and signups and installations I have given you up till this point. From now I will recommend Jellyfin, Emby or paying for a streaming service, as Plex’s greed and hatred for their users now rivals that of the big name streaming services, because I have no remaining faith after its been beat out of me for 5 years straight.

I have no faith this company has any sort of interest in doing right by their customers. As cliche as it is, I will quote Obi-Wan,“You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them!”, good day.

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Please don’t don’t don’t remove this feature. From where I am from (Southern Italy), many young people move to find work elsewhere, either Northern Italy or other countries. While sometimes it was a little bit wonky, it helps with connecting with my friends and family that live away.

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NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO … don’t do this.

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Vote for it as a feature request. This thread has 5k views, if everyone who viewed this thread voted it for it, it would overwhelmingly be the most requested feature:

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The Fireside chat is not an honest engagement anyway. They reveal a small portion of their product roadmap, admit that listening is important, and then basically don’t respond to most of the suggestions. When I checked how many suggestions from the first fireside thread had not been addressed by the time the next fireside thread rolled around, I stopped counting around 150. I am sure the individual people mean well, but the process is not functional and there is zero reason to expect the fireside chats are actually a useful line of communication or help affect their priorities in any way.

This has been made clear repeatedly: forum users represent a minuscule proportion of their actual audience, which are mostly casual users who are watching ad-supported, free movies. If every single person on this forum were 100% united in exactly what they wanted, it wouldn’t change anything. Many of those users have never even heard of Plex, they’re just clicking random buttons on their Roku or whatever, they’re extremely low technical information and skill, and they have no interest in any features besides pressing play and seeing Jimmy Stewart.

The thing I don’t get is why, having internalized this cruel math, Plex wouldn’t take steps to open source or engage the community. As of right now there are no resources going into competitors because Plex is an 800 lb Gorilla, but very limited resources going into Plex because Plex’s primary audience is not people who use Plex for its original, intended, and best purpose. Baffling.

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Nobody at Plex cares about the home servers…
Now its about the revenue stream…

Feature requests sit for 10+ years, thats about the time I was able to vote for a feature..

So they come and go,

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I’m fully aware with these kind of outcomes, not like furry fandom community doesn’t have these issues and head of large organizations become sell out because they wanted that investor money. One of the biggest sell out of furry community just left this earth because of his own need to feed his unhealthy kink and control with money. So to bad for him, at least I will outlive him.

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Honestly, this is something that i wish i could have used more. Where i am upload bandwidth from my home server is very limited, which meant it didnt quite meet my needs for how i wanted to watch things, so we went back to clicking play at the same time on multiple local copies. It is a bad solution, but what we have.

Nonetheless the removal of this feature from plex, along with other streaming services like disney plus is a really negative action for those of us who have to live away from our lovedones due to work or other commitments. Watching media together is a great way to make our world smaller.

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I am also extremely disappointed that this feature is going away. I only noticed that it exists recently and have been using it frequently since then, only to find that is being deprecated. I did not think that I subscribed to Plex Pass in order to lose features over time.

I strongly request that Plex reconsider removing this feature, and if the new app does not include it at first, then at least clearly put it on the roadmap for inclusion. And even better, continue to keep the old app available alongside the new one (even if you stop updating it aside from critical security patches) until the new app has feature parity with the existing one, including Watch Together.

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They better keep this feature in.

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R.I.P. my long distance relationship.

Reminds me of Photo Uploads getting removed and the current state of Photos. Like how I can’t view any photos from home screen and just get an error.

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Extremely stupid. Will switch to JellyFin fo sure .

#jellyfin #emby #winamp #netflix

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I use the Watch Together feature at least a dozen times every week. I’m very disappointed with this decision and will also consider alternatives like Jellyfin. I can think of many other features I would rather do without if I comes down to it.

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I gather Jellyfin has a feature called “SyncPlay”. Does it work as well or better than “Watch Together”?

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Jellyfin’s SyncPlay is in fact much better, as it’s more like a lobby so you can keep playing media without needing to make a new session every time. This was honestly a popular request for Plex as well but instead it’s just getting axed. I really only need Plex to be a media server and for me to watch together with friends, which means I’ll likely have to pivot towards Jellyfin now.

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Not to focus on a different product here, but as far as I know, Jellyfin’s SyncPlay doesn’t work on TV apps, IOS, etc. It primarily works on the web (and perhaps some app I didn’t test). Which is the same as Watch Together. At least, that’s what I found when I tested a while back.

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It’s really not. It’s significantly worse. You can read about it on the forums and their Discord.

The global consensus is that if it works, it works well but if it breaks, it breaks really badly.

I’ve tried really hard trying to understand why it works for some people but not for others, but I haven’t made any headway.

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Everything in JF is significantly worse and the gap is widening, sadly.
I am very unhappy with the direction plex is taking but there are no viable alternatives out there.

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This is the unfortunate truth. I really want them to shine but they basically have no focus or direction over there and let people work on whatever they want. The user experience is completely different between all of their apps (which are the worst out of all media server client apps).

I’ve also seen them ignore contributions from the community and leave platforms like Reddit only to come back later to beg for help. Very odd group over there.

I know it isn’t Plex, but Emby actually works really well. The only reason I didn’t switch is because they lack a Watch Together feature.

The media server itself runs really well and the clients are pretty dang solid on the platforms I’ve used them on.

Some people will say why pay for Emby when you can just pay for Plex? Local auth and less bloat would be my response at this point. It actually loads faster than Plex when clicking a user profile and getting to your libraries because of this.

Oh, a community member did make an Emby plugin called Watch Party that only works in the web browser but is an alternative that works really well. It does require some manual setup but I made it stupid easy with docker.

I’m going to wait and see how Plex navigates the rest of this year and then make a decision to move or not.

I’ve been saying this for a while but I actually mean it this time. Watch Together is what kept me here.

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