What is going on with Plex Moods?

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I have a decent sized music library & it’s taken me a long time to tag it just the way I want it using an external tag manager. One of my tagging methods is to allow coarsely sorting via genre & finely sorting via mood, example genre - electronic, mood - techno or genre - metal, mood - thrash etc

This works perfectly fine for me until I create a music library in Plex, even with the option “Use embedded tags” checked Plex ignores my carefully curated collection and forces a bunch of random mood tags which are meaningless to me. I have never, nor will I ever want to tag any of my music as - Arousing Groove, Carefree Pop, Cool Melancholy, Defiant, Forlorn, Jaunty, Passionate Rhythm, Ramshackle, Smoky, Strumming Yearning, Suave, Thrilling or Wistful. Where do these random tags even come from in the first place?

Plex does not know better than me how to tag my own music collection, that’s why I told it to use embedded tags. Is it possible to get Plex to do as I ask & replace all these meaningless tags with the ones I have already taken the time to create?

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Are ‘Local Media Assets’ at the top position under
Settings - Server - Agents - Albums - Plex Premium Music ?

Having said that, it might even be possible that the Mood tag is exclusive to Gracenote in Plex.
I never tried to tag the ‘mood’ into a file directly, as it is not very widely supported. Whether by players nor by tagging software.

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@Stewie Griffin said:
I have a decent sized music library & it’s taken me a long time to tag it just the way I want it using an external tag manager. One of my tagging methods is to allow coarsely sorting via genre & finely sorting via mood, example genre - electronic, mood - techno or genre - metal, mood - thrash etc

This works perfectly fine for me until I create a music library in Plex, even with the option “Use embedded tags” checked Plex ignores my carefully curated collection and forces a bunch of random mood tags which are meaningless to me. I have never, nor will I ever want to tag any of my music as - Arousing Groove, Carefree Pop, Cool Melancholy, Defiant, Forlorn, Jaunty, Passionate Rhythm, Ramshackle, Smoky, Strumming Yearning, Suave, Thrilling or Wistful. Where do these random tags even come from in the first place?

Plex does not know better than me how to tag my own music collection, that’s why I told it to use embedded tags. Is it possible to get Plex to do as I ask & replace all these meaningless tags with the ones I have already taken the time to create?

Yes there is a problem in Plex that some of the premium metadata overrides the tags in the files even if use embedded tags is checked. Record label is the same; I have proper record label tagged in all my files and yet I get bad ones from gracenote.

On a related note, have you considered changing your tagging method? I mean because the mood field should not be used for what you are doing, anyway.

Instead, you could use multiple genres in the genre field. This is more proper and supported and it works in Plex as well.

You just use a proper separator. I don’t know which Plex supports but I use ; and Plex supports that.

So in your case, you could put genre:
Metal; Thrash
or
Electronic; Techno
In both these cases Plex will understand that you intend to separate the tags and it does so. You can also put as many genres as you want this way.

And if you were to migrate, you could also use the software mp3tag to tell it to move your moods values and append them to the genre field, and probably batch your entire library and as such create compatability with Plex with almost no hassle.

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@OttoKerner said:
Are ‘Local Media Assets’ at the top position under
Settings - Server - Agents - Albums - Plex Premium Music ?

Having said that, it might even be possible that the Mood tag is exclusive to Gracenote in Plex.
I never tried to tag the ‘mood’ into a file directly, as it is not very widely supported. Whether by players nor by tagging software.

Just checked this & yes “Local Media Assets” is at the top position.

@d2freak said:

Yes there is a problem in Plex that some of the premium metadata overrides the tags in the files even if use embedded tags is checked. Record label is the same; I have proper record label tagged in all my files and yet I get bad ones from gracenote.

On a related note, have you considered changing your tagging method? I mean because the mood field should not be used for what you are doing, anyway.

Instead, you could use multiple genres in the genre field. This is more proper and supported and it works in Plex as well.

You just use a proper separator. I don’t know which Plex supports but I use ; and Plex supports that.

So in your case, you could put genre:
Metal; Thrash
or
Electronic; Techno
In both these cases Plex will understand that you intend to separate the tags and it does so. You can also put as many genres as you want this way.

And if you were to migrate, you could also use the software mp3tag to tell it to move your moods values and append them to the genre field, and probably batch your entire library and as such create compatability with Plex with almost no hassle.

This was useful.

I’m on Mac so I use Yate for tagging, I set up an action to append the mood field to the genre and replace the separator , that I was already using with ;

I ran a test on a folder, refreshed these files in Plex & what do you know it’s worked!!

Mood is still strumming yearningly away to itself but that doesn’t bother me so much now as I can fine tune my selections in genre.

Thank you, d2freak :-bd