Where are the logos sourced?

I’m certainly not attacking, if it came across that way then sorry.

Plex is a mess when it comes metadata. Manually selecting artwork via their editor is not recommended and ninja’s have stated that in the past.

I’d suggest if you are going to the effort of picking a logo then store it alongside your media in prep for when plex will support local assets for logos. They have at least confirmed this is coming …

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Fair enough. :slight_smile:

Yeah, I don’t disagree. I just haven’t had quite as much trouble with it as some seem to have - typically my posters don’t change once I pick one manually. Though it still does happen and I would still like a “lock” option like other fields and I did try to complain pretty loudly when DMCA takedowns became “block all art” instead of just removing the offending artwork.

And the new cast photos source certainly sucks. :nauseated_face:

But I came to Plex from other server options years ago partially because I got tired of managing local assets so much. I don’t really curate my art that specifically and because of that I’m not as particular about it with that trade-off in mind.

It is definitely more of a trade-off these days compared to a couple years ago. Emby is on the back burner for sure. :slight_smile:

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I’m on the jellyfin fan club now and it’s my backup :grin:

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I have been so lost just trying to figure out what these logos even were. I had google and get an example from Reddit. I do not want logos, I want simple text. Ugh… so many bad decisions lately. I’m completely burned out trying to keep up.

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Plex may not use them by default, but they are still an option in the picker, and some of us still customize the poster/backdrop on all new media. Even if you’re using an automated system for actually getting the media onto the server, most people are only adding a few titles at a time, so they are still able to take the time to do it. It’s only when you change an established media server from one platform to another and suddenly have 500+ “new” films with no local image files that this becomes a real grind.

I’ve been recently adding a few new logos to TMDB, and if Plex changes to using some crappy alternative people who care will still be able to get the logos and manually upload them or add them as local metadata images.

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I’m using some of your posters myself - as local assets.
Great work and forgot to say thanks before :+1:

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In the table metadada_items there is a column user_clear_logo_url, where you can see which media has clear logos.

If they have been uploaded by the user - I’ve uploaded some - it will have a value like this: upload://clearLogos/f335c38018830d9bd896a3e97611e792ab98246d.

If they have been fetched by Plex, it will be something like this:
metadata://clearLogos/tv.plex.agents.series_fc113ccf9102b3af0ed2e351ca264b5c336fc8e2

If the logo is missing, the value will be blank or possibly NULL .

I’ve put something together, if anyone is interested.

For TV Shows

SELECT title,
strftime('%Y', originally_available_at, 'unixepoch', 'localtime') AS year
FROM metadata_items
WHERE library_section_id = 2
  AND media_item_count = 0
  AND (
    user_clear_logo_url = "" 
    OR user_clear_logo_url IS NULL
  )
  AND parent_id IS NULL
  AND guid NOT LIKE '%collection%'
ORDER BY title_sort ASC;

In this case, library_section_id = 2 is my TV Shows library.

For Movies

SELECT title,
tags_director,
strftime('%Y', originally_available_at, 'unixepoch', 'localtime') AS year
FROM metadata_items
WHERE library_section_id = 1
  AND media_item_count = 1
  AND (
    user_clear_logo_url = "" 
    OR user_clear_logo_url IS NULL
  )
  AND guid NOT LIKE '%collection%'
ORDER BY title_sort ASC;

In this case, library_section_id = 1 is my Movies library.

I’m not that sharp at SQLite but trying this with DB Browser for SQLite gives me correct results. Media that does not have logo but text.

You can get a nice report using DB Browser for SQLite.

Make a copy of your db - just to be safe -, open the db with DB Browser, copy & paste the code in the tab ‘Execute SQL’ and click on the arrow.

Then you can copy the formatted table in Excel.

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Would be awesome if I could even get any logos in the first place :+1:t3:.

Unfortunately I can only have logos if they are explicitly available in my language. So even if there is no localized title, that just means I am out of luck or what?? Why even add the logos (although I have always liked them in Kodi (where it isn’t a problem either!)) in the first place if you are only going to allow certain users to use them??

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Well, looks like I’ll be dead before that happens

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Following up again. When can us paying users get the option to completely disable these logo downgrades?

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We can’t yet. I suspect based on other posts that Plex devs are far too busy getting basic functionality of the app to work again before they even dream about working on the fancy (completely unnecessary) stuff again.

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I’m baffled the new experience is now being pushed to TV clients without having the ability to edit logos from the server.

Something is going very wrong inside Plex HQ.

You just don’t do this. Ever.

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Ah, guessing you saw that Reddit post, too?

I actually did, but what prompted my message was me adding some movies recently and seeing this little number in the preview app:

How good does that look?

Yeah, I was gonna say something about that regarding my Sabrina example from yesterday, and then I realized that’s how it is on the TMDB. Someone is uploading Clear Art as Clear Logo resources, so TMDB deserves part of the blame for not policing the content uploads. But Plex is supposedly reviewing these logos (in lieu of just letting the server owners do it).

Also, I looked up Gravity and that “3D” logo isn’t there. So Plex has cached an old, now deleted, logo image.

Seems random the logo’s that do show and the ones that don’t.
Really hope local sourced images come soon or being able to choose one in the web admin like we can for poster and background.

I’d be interested to know if the logic for displaying logos is final. I’ve been uploading logos for various movies and TV shows in TheMovieDB over the last few months and had only about an 85% success rate of them coming into Plex. After a lot of trial and error, I’ve noticed these criteria:

I really hope we get the option to manually upload logos via the UI soon or at least manually select logos that were fetched

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