Why HTPC Support Should Remain Indefinitely

Of that I have no doubt.
However is that because HTPC users suddenly chose to abandon the platform or is it because in the advent of things like HDR the lack of progress in PMP forced them to abandon in favour of a Shield, ATV 4K etc…

As can I. Embedded would have been enough. :grinning:

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Just asking because I honestly don’t know: is Embedded open-source?

The underlying OS is a fork of LibreELEC which is a JEOS Linux distro. The player engine is mpv which is also FOSS. The UNO UI/UX is not open-source.

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Probably a little of both. Spousal acceptance factor is easier when you can have all of their viewing options in one place, as opposed to some on one input, and some on another.

Heck, my wife can now pick up a Roku remote, turn on the entire system via HDMI CEC with one button press, and see all of her viewing options right on the Roku. She can even adjust the volume with the Roku remote. To her, the system is plug-and-play. She doesn’t need a huge Logitech remote, she doesn’t need to remember which input is which. It’s all right there in one place.

I think the decline of the HTPC to a niche market was always inevitable. Honestly, it had a really good run. I just wish the alternatives took the niche users more seriously.

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I’m so glad @Achilles replied as although I knew it ran on LibreELEC that was as far as I could have gone lol. I just know what that was truly ultimate platform.

Guess who else stated this. One of the two head honcho’s over at Emby. :grinning:
He did go on to say that had no plans to abandon though. Plus Emby have never offered embedded as far as I’m aware.

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To be honest I’m happy enough.
I love Plex & UNO on my ATV 4K.
Lossless Flac 7.1 sounds far better than I expected. Though I would have preferred bitstream in the way Infuse does.

If I really do wanna go full out Atmos for the latest Marvel blockbuster. Then I go with the Shield.
Ironically the one thing I never hear from the Plethora of Shield fanboys is it’s 2nd true selling feature. It’s absolutely fantastic for flinging from mobile to. (Chromecast on steroids)
If only someone had told me I really didn’t need to ever look at the Shield UI or experience the Plex UX on it or indeed touch its abysmal remote.

All that said the potential of PMP embedded and a single device for everything would have been a dream.

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I just think HTPC support is one of those things that should always be there when you have an ecosystem like plex for playing your media. It’s just a feature that deserves to be there no matter how many users use it. And officially supported.

“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

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Looks like it’s more important to keep VR support.

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It’s kind of like 7.1 lossless audio, Atmos height setups, HDR, 24p, 10/12 bit color. I guarantee metrics would support that most people do not have setups that fully (or slightly) take advantage of this (just because your TV supports HDR, doesn’t mean you’re truly pulling off HDR.) Is the industry going to just stop making media with these features? Not likely, if anything they’ll just keep adding more, innovating more.

Plex is doing the opposite by removing PMP/HTPC support.

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Please forgive a noob question, but as someone who’s always just used the Roku app in my HT, I’m confused as to what all the furor is with them dropping support for the PMP program. Won’t the new desktop app still work on your HTPC? What are the major differences? Does it force you to transcode everything?

As I just use a Roku in my HT and it seems to work fine for me, although I’m not trying to do 4k or Atmos yet. I see people are distraught about losing the “tv layout” too but I can’t even find an image of what that looks like in comparison to the Roku or desktop/web app view you see in everything else to see what the big deal is.

Maybe there’s a post that details this somewhere but I haven’t been able to find anything (yet).

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Not really. No remote support; no advanced settings; no audio passthrough; etc.

The desktop app is actually using the same backend video player (mpv) that PMP does.

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Basically people on their HTPC had a solution to enjoy the same kind of 10 foot interface that the Roku app provides. This solution is being taken away.

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I have no idea at all and my post in no way supported VR or did not support VR. If Plex was to choose to drop VR I would feel about it exactly as I do about HTPC. But really one has nothing to do with the other.

I do not want Plex to waste time and money on any part of their system that is not likely to grow however it is very possible that VR may be growing and HTPC is declining. That, depending on the level of growth, might make VR a viable system to invest time and money in.

Personally I cannot see wanting to have a device hanging on my face that isolates me from everything else but that is me. VR may be the wave of the future and all streaming companies might need to support it in the near future.

I am waiting for the direct neural interface where images and sound get directly downloaded into my brain and I have to expend no effort at all.

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10 foot interface? The Roku app looks about the same as the desktop/web app does, minus the server admin and editing functionality.

It doesn’t have keyboard shortcuts, remote control ability, or the ability to pass surround sound to a receiver via HDMI. It looks similar to the Roku but functionality is different.

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No audio passthru? Doesn’t it just send whatever audio track is selected out of the PC via spdif or HDMI (if configured) at full bandwidth?

If money is an issue, maybe they should have a more sustainable business plan. A lifetime plex pass covers a couple hours worth of development time at best, then they don’t see a penny from those users (who ironically complain like they invested so much). How can they go on forever like that?

Then there is people like me who have no need for plex pass features and happy to just stream my content from my server to my plex clients. The biggest features like live tv is not possible where I live, download/sync is something I never needed, etc… If I had to pay to buy the PMP App with one year of free upgrades, like other software companies do, I would have spent the money to use it and keep it upgraded through out the years.

No, PMP provides audio passthrough. The new Desktop app does not. This is particularly important when you are connecting via a good AVR and want it to handle formats such as DTS MA 7.1. In fact, I want my AVR to handle ALL formats, not Plex when playing locally.

Kodi will become my player interface on my HTPC when support for PMP ends. I’ll let PMS handle remote server duties. I would have preferred to keep using PMP but Plex Inc feel otherwise.

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What is disappearing? Which one is Plex Media Player?

I run the Plex server on a PC and watch the movies on that on my Samsung TV using the Plex Media app. Is that what is disappearing?