@fecaleagle said:
This is a ridiculous feature and clearly a money-grab. The privacy policy changes last month made me less inclined to look for other options than this does. Live TV/DVR still has a long way to go, and now they act like it’s time to move on to the next big thing and spring this crap on us that literally nobody asked for. I use Live TV/DVR primarily to consume news on CBS and PBS, but this really confirms that we’re headed in the wrong direction.
If you don’t like the new “News” feature just ignore it and don’t use it; nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use are they? The thing is that there are some people that will like it, and use it, which is rather the point I guess.
The problem here (for me, and I can only comment on my opinion) is that I have Plex for my 4 year old daughter, and my 9 and 13 year old niece/nephew and they do NOT need to see this (disgusting) news crap in their Plex app. The Plex app is so wonderful because I can restrict each user to specific things to watch and have, but I can not remove unwanted News about murder, our insane moronic president in America, or lost kids, and all the other stuff 4 year old kids don’t need to watch!
I am appalled by this, and while no one is “forcing” us to watch it, my little 4 year old always knew that Cartoons was the first one on the top to watch. This is unfair.
Would you not have the children on a managed user account? Currently managed users do not get the News.
@fecaleagle said:
This is a ridiculous feature and clearly a money-grab. The privacy policy changes last month made me less inclined to look for other options than this does. Live TV/DVR still has a long way to go, and now they act like it’s time to move on to the next big thing and spring this crap on us that literally nobody asked for. I use Live TV/DVR primarily to consume news on CBS and PBS, but this really confirms that we’re headed in the wrong direction.
If you don’t like the new “News” feature just ignore it and don’t use it; nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use are they? The thing is that there are some people that will like it, and use it, which is rather the point I guess.
The problem here (for me, and I can only comment on my opinion) is that I have Plex for my 4 year old daughter, and my 9 and 13 year old niece/nephew and they do NOT need to see this (disgusting) news crap in their Plex app. The Plex app is so wonderful because I can restrict each user to specific things to watch and have, but I can not remove unwanted News about murder, our insane moronic president in America, or lost kids, and all the other stuff 4 year old kids don’t need to watch!
I am appalled by this, and while no one is “forcing” us to watch it, my little 4 year old always knew that Cartoons was the first one on the top to watch. This is unfair.
Would you not have the children on a managed user account? Currently managed users do not get the News.
They are on a managed account and they DO get the “News.” Part of the issue. On Android, it is ON for managed users (on my Home) and that is on Android 6.5.3.2115, Server (Mac) 1.9.3.4290 and I’m not sure about iOS.
I’ve been asking for a “Radio” feature ever since they added music support but it never comes.
@Plex You realize you could simply add an “album complete” hook to your API and then allow users to toggle “Radio Mode” in the settings which would auto queue a Plex mix based on the last track.
*Would be better if you upgraded your Plex mix algorithm to sample a number of songs in the recently played history and build a Plex mix of Plex mixes based on those tracks sampled.
*Any number of ways to get the feature started with literally zero brain cells used. You could even go a step further and start adding Plex Mix radio stations to the Music discovery dashboard based on various listening intervals/genres in the past.
But yeah, spend your time building a Haystack news clone…
@Dion250 said:
Why is this in my Library and how do I disable it?
Don’t click it if you don’t want to watch it! It is really that simple, it’s not like the videos are on the front page with on deck. A bunch of entitled people complaining over absolutely nothing.
I presume you were first in line to defend browser tools bars whenever some company decided to install it for you… i mean, you could just avoid clicking it if you didnt need it …
@fecaleagle said:
This is a ridiculous feature and clearly a money-grab. The privacy policy changes last month made me less inclined to look for other options than this does. Live TV/DVR still has a long way to go, and now they act like it’s time to move on to the next big thing and spring this crap on us that literally nobody asked for. I use Live TV/DVR primarily to consume news on CBS and PBS, but this really confirms that we’re headed in the wrong direction.
If you don’t like the new “News” feature just ignore it and don’t use it; nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use are they? The thing is that there are some people that will like it, and use it, which is rather the point I guess.
The problem here (for me, and I can only comment on my opinion) is that I have Plex for my 4 year old daughter, and my 9 and 13 year old niece/nephew and they do NOT need to see this (disgusting) news crap in their Plex app. The Plex app is so wonderful because I can restrict each user to specific things to watch and have, but I can not remove unwanted News about murder, our insane moronic president in America, or lost kids, and all the other stuff 4 year old kids don’t need to watch!
I am appalled by this, and while no one is “forcing” us to watch it, my little 4 year old always knew that Cartoons was the first one on the top to watch. This is unfair.
Would you not have the children on a managed user account? Currently managed users do not get the News.
I have 2 kids and I’m not using Plex home because I dont want my local content to be locked out when my internet goes offline. Kids know not to watch adult content, so no fear of them watching news crap but I can see why people are peeved being forced to see this ON THEIR home server.
Did you like tool bars installed in your browsers back in the day ? After all , no one forced you to use them
The irony of all this is that Plex was originally so well-established as the solution for cord-cutting. That’s why its so hilariously, horribly sad to see Plex trying to make a bulldozer fly, so to speak.
Just signed up for Emby. It’s been real fun Plex. We use Plex to maintain control over what our children see because we feel the national news is possibly the worst thing out there with commercials right behind it.
@EvenKeeld said:
Just signed up for Emby. It’s been real fun Plex. We use Plex to maintain control over what our children see because we feel the national news is possibly the worst thing out there with commercials right behind it.
Right!!! Vote with your feet and your wallet. It’s the only language they seem to understand …
@“Kyle Verry” said:
I’m not allowed to explain, due to the Beta agreement, but I think I can confidently say the update will be welcome for everyone.
I give a damn about it … I’m running 90% on Emby now. Plex promised so much in the past and deliverd so little. I say: **** them!
This will seem super off topic, but I feel that way about Google Hangouts and the way they destroyed that. I went to Telegram and love it.
I bring it up only because if you destroy one aspect of a solution or feature set, it makes people look. In this case, for me, it was Hangouts. As such, I have started looking for new solutions everywhere to replace Gmail, Google Drive, Keep, and a bunch of other Google services. My faith was shook, and I could see me not being a die-hard Google fan in the near future like I was for 10+ years.
I completely understand your switch, and it is very similar in concept to my lengthy story. Ruin one aspect, you run the risk of losing people for all other services too. Loyalty in software is not fool-proof.
@EvenKeeld said:
Just signed up for Emby. It’s been real fun Plex. We use Plex to maintain control over what our children see because we feel the national news is possibly the worst thing out there with commercials right behind it.
Right!!! Vote with your feet and your wallet. It’s the only language they seem to understand …
I do NOT think Plex really believes that those of us they are driving away make a difference. Or at least they believe they have already bled all the gain from us they are likely to be able to or they believe they will make more from all the monetizing moves they have made and are making that they could ever glean from those that leave or they are looking at the picture and seeing the possibility of something like a big IPO and then retiring.
I think it is some combination of the above and I also believe that Plex now sees themselves as just profit driven and without any concern for their customer. In fact it seems to have become that the only time Plex notices their customers is when they clean them out from between their toes after squishing up from underneath their feet.
I do not believe that Plex can (or wants to) recover from their current pattern. They just want money and they know that most folks, in spite of reports from those of us that have moved, will not go to the trouble to learn a new system and so will continue to be an income maker for Plex.
Plex’s only goal is making money for Plex and they do not see the relatively small number of defections as being a real threat to that goal.
@marcelhehle said:
It’s not one aspect … it’s most aspects:
Lastest update of my Apple TV Plex app needs to link each time from scratch to find the server
Same plex app doesn’t show the details of a movie flawlessly: every 2nd time or so it just hangs
Cloud sync never ever fully worked for me
Even worse: now and then it deletes the synced files
No Linux PMP
PMP in itself … the usability is a joke
Lately since about 1 month the transcoder is running all the time … even if I don’t watch a movie
The changed privacy policy
The news “feature”
And so on and so on.
Plex is concentrating on bringing new features nobody wants and in the meantime the SW falls to pieces: 1 new feature, several old ones broken
It’s not “one aspect”. It’s really the core of Plex in itself nowadays.
Totally agree, but just real quick, on the transcode thing, it is the Generate Thumbnails section (either check box) that is doing it. Total bug there, but, if you uncheck both (remove a nice feature) you do get relief on the transcoding. I have done that until they fix whatever bug is causing it to always run. Totally unacceptable, but I wanted you to know there is relief for your machine at least.
My issue keep revolving around Music. I absolutely want to use Plex Music. I do, but it’s frustrating since it doesn’t have the basic performance features that other services do. I am sad.
@Dion250 said:
So can a plex member tell us if we will ever be allowed to turn it off in the future.
Yes, a plex employee already did say that. Although the wording was careful and mentioned “hide” rather then “disable” or even “remove”.
I wrote that. On October 5th I used the term hide in this comment. Later the same day I clarified by writing that users will be able to enable/disable the feature in this comment, which was a reply to you.
The full comment:
Happy to elaborate on the functionality. Since News is tied to a Plex account and not a server, users will be able to enable/disable it for their own accounts (Managed Users already have it disabled). Once disabled, the service will not interact with (or send data to) the client.
Then on October 10th I responded to a question on if disabling News will remove it from the user’s dashboard, in this comment. The answer is yes, disabling it will remove it from your dashboard.
