Why move from .TS to .MKV and back again?

I note with the latest release (1.7.6) PMS is back to recording TV in .TS format. Certainly I had a number of problems with the .MKV format and I’m now unsure if those transmissions I have in .MKV are any good. Does anyone know what may have been wrong with the .MKV format and what has been rectified by moving back to .TS format?

Your recordings in mkv should be fine. Pretty sure the move back to ts was related to users that require Closed Captions/Subtitles were unable to extract those streams from the mkv file. So a user that had hearing loss was unable to see the text of speech or sounds happening in the show.

My suspicion was Closed Captioning, but so far i haven’t seen that improve

much thanks!!!

@mavrrick said:
My suspicion was Closed Captioning, but so far i haven’t seen that improve

Just testing and subtitles are working as they did before. I’m seeing “eng” for captioning on KCBS News. So, that’s a good thing. The bad thing is that the postprocessing functionality is now broken. User scripts are ignored, which means that the .ts file is moved to the final destination before transcoding/remuxing. I have a script that walks the directory structure searching for .ts files and if it finds one, it transcodes to vp9 and puts it in a mkv container - so it’s not the end of the world… but for goodness sake, doesn’t anyone test this stuff?

Anyone in Europe with access to channels that broadcast DVB-subs and/or TTX subs that can verify/refute that the return to .ts format also means that these are included again? If you try to play back a recording with VLC you should be able to switch on DVB-Subs (and perhaps TTX subs) in the Subtitle menu of VLC. Also, if TTX is preserved, there are some additional buttons at the bottom of the playback window (one is a number-edit with the number 100 pre-filled).

@gbcox said:

@mavrrick said:
My suspicion was Closed Captioning, but so far i haven’t seen that improve

Just testing and subtitles are working as they did before. I’m seeing “eng” for captioning on KCBS News. So, that’s a good thing. The bad thing is that the postprocessing functionality is now broken. User scripts are ignored, which means that the .ts file is moved to the final destination before transcoding/remuxing. I have a script that walks the directory structure searching for .ts files and if it finds one, it transcodes to vp9 and puts it in a mkv container - so it’s not the end of the world… but for goodness sake, doesn’t anyone test this stuff?

Please could you provide logs and information about the setup of the post processing scripts so it can be referred to the development team. If you could ensure debug logging is enabled on the server, restart the server and then get the logs for a recording and after it finishes and info on the post processing. If you have already raised it as an issue, please let me have the link to the topic / post

I presume you have already edited the post processing script to now look for .ts file instead of .mkv ?

Thanks

The funny thing with the MKV files was that the subtitles were there, but controlling their visibility was not possible. On my Apple TV it acted as though there were no closed captions available. But if I watched the same show via the Plex app on my Vizio smart TV, the closed captions would ALWAYS show, and couldn’t be turned off. I’m eager to see if the change back to .ts fixes the problem on both fronts.

@sa2000 said:

@gbcox said:

@mavrrick said:
My suspicion was Closed Captioning, but so far i haven’t seen that improve

Just testing and subtitles are working as they did before. I’m seeing “eng” for captioning on KCBS News. So, that’s a good thing. The bad thing is that the postprocessing functionality is now broken. User scripts are ignored, which means that the .ts file is moved to the final destination before transcoding/remuxing. I have a script that walks the directory structure searching for .ts files and if it finds one, it transcodes to vp9 and puts it in a mkv container - so it’s not the end of the world… but for goodness sake, doesn’t anyone test this stuff?

Please could you provide logs and information about the setup of the post processing scripts so it can be referred to the development team. If you could ensure debug logging is enabled on the server, restart the server and then get the logs for a recording and after it finishes and info on the post processing. If you have already raised it as an issue, please let me have the link to the topic / post

I presume you have already edited the post processing script to now look for .ts file instead of .mkv ?

Thanks

Yes, I have debugging on. It’s a bash script and I turned debugging on the the script also. Nothing is showing up in the logs. It’s as if I haven’t specified a script for postprocessing. I’ll post more info here:
https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/279412/after-1-7-6-post-processing-not-moving-remuxed-transcoded-file