I’ve tried using zero’s but always end up with the following error…
“This location isn’t covered by Plex DVR guide data. Because you already set up a tuner using Plex DVR guide data, we are unable to offer the option to use a XMLTV guide. Please select a different location.”
Right because I had to manually assign the channels to a Gracenote guide DirecTV being the one I chose. Since I was mixing tuners. That’s the question I don’t have the answer for. If you select your tuner and do it the way I did, it will work, it’s just more of a pain if you have a lot of channels.
so you had to choose xml guide to start and then manually remap each tuner to gracenote (plex guide) as required? Was this on per channel basis or per tuner? I have 4 tuners. 2 HDHomeRun’s, 1 TellyTV tuner and an xteve tuner. the first three are all using BT TV guide via Gracenote/Plex and i want the xteve tuner to use the xml guide provided via xteve for a few random foreign channels.
I did my HD home runs first via Gracenote and then did Xteve via direct TV Gracenote and manually assigned each Channel( 3 lol). I think the problem you’re running into as you want the xml to be primary and I don’t think it works.
Dude, they disabled the 0000 glitch. It is not intended to use Plex EPG and XMLTV at the same time. It’s one or the other.
You can setup multiple tuners with multiple lineups using one or the other not both.
In my opinion, this is just a silly and arbitrary restriction. Emby already allows for this functionality and I have it fully configured and operational.
PLEX however is more user friendly regarding automation of post processing, i.e., intro and commercial skipping / removal. As a longtime PLEX user, I also prefer the interface and find it more consistent and stable across platforms.
It’s just a shame that this isn’t an option.
I agree with you.
It’s true that it doesn’t work or doesn’t work anymore. The feature was probably disabled because it was buggy and rather than fixing it, they disabled it completely.
But to say as some said here that it is justified to disable it because it was mentioned (where?) that Plex would never try to implement it is, in my opinion, silly. I mean, that’s an answer that a grumpy Plex employee might make, but not a Plex Pass customer. As a customer, it’s a legitimate need to have this feature implemented. And of course, if a particular customer of the forum doesn’t need this feature, he withdraws from arguing and doesn’t deny the need of others.
Im pretty sure as soon as someone uses “Dude” in a discussion they lose the right to reply lol
LOL. It’s funny you should quote that, I was just reading this article to see how people take it:
kegbeach is active, knowledgeable and has been around for a while, I don’t care if he calls me dude haha.
I dont doubt that he is knowledgeable and active. However i havent seen any quotes to back up his stance that plex have stopped working on this feature or that they simply wont be doing it so i’m more inclined to wait for a response from a Plex employee working on this part of the system/project to have it either confirmed or denied. All the dev info i have read is pointing at plex supporting xml and plex guide and it being customisable on a per device basis. It begins to get confusing when we are talking mixed plex guide and xml but the dev announcements seem to point to it being possible
The whole concept and implementation is completely broken anyways because if you add two different lineups from two different geographic areas and the channel numbers happen to conflict between two channels the guide and channel will default to the first tuner and you will never watch the second channel unless all slots on the first tuner are used up and it won’t display the EPG data for the second channel anyways.
So tell me why using XMLTV 100% doesn’t fix the whole issue here? Because it does for me. If you can use it for a few channels you can use it for all the channels! Or find another PEPG lineup with that channel that doesn’t conflict with your existing lineup. You can add a guide from UK and Australia at the same time but if the channel numbers happen to conflict you’ll have issues.
In my opinion there’s no reason to even use PEPG with multiple sources when XMLTV lets you make all the choices.
Unless Plex decides to re-think this implementation it’s broken. A more ideal solution is to be able to edit the channel numbers in Plex DVR while using multiple PEPG sources instead of defaulting to the sources number so no conflicts happen. Or let us choose what lineup to view at will in Plex DVR. IF they implemented a function to switch lineups in the guide screen THEN it might be feasible to allow PEPG and XMLTV to coincide between lineups but not together without getting messy IMO.
The whole thing is a lot bigger than meets the eye.
Note: I was able to test adding an Australian lineup to a DVR setup that already has a UK lineup without issue unless channel numbers conflict between eachother.
Having the same issue - I’m using an OTA tuner with PEGP, but can’t add a second tuner with an IPTV channel lineup with XMLTV. It’s one or the other, even if they are not the same tuner/device. Would be really nice to be able to run separate sources for the guide for different tuners.
They should really take a look at Emby’s back-end implementation of live TV channel management! Just out of curiosity I did, it’s freaking amazing! You can actually move channels and reorder by changing their Channel numbers and manipulate the guide per channel number. Plus being able to change logos on the guide. It’s just light years ahead of Plex’s Broken implementation of this so-called “new guide”. I’d love to be able to mix my hdhomerun Primes, connects, and Xteve for locals not available in my area! But here I am loyal to an aging system that hopefully gets caught up!
it isnt messy if you assign channel numbers to each IPTV channel in xteve or TellyTV. You can then avoid channel clashes quite easily. XMLTV guides require manipulation whereas Plex Guides dont. Plex gets channel numbers from the tuner and then matches with channel numbers from Gracenote. quite simple. xmltv just matches with an id so tend to do that manually so makes more sense to let plex handle as much as possible and then only manually map a few channels
The 00000 zip code trick was only during the initial release of PMS.1.23.1.4571 and maybe one or two versions after, right when Plex web was updated to 4.57.4.
If you want a mix of Plex EPG and XMLTV, you will need to do the web browser tab trick.
Open two web browser tabs of PMS> Settings> Live TV & DVR
On each tab proceed by setting up a DVR - have all tuners show in the pop-up. That’s it.
My personal preference is to set up my OTA first, so it auto-pins as that top Live TV & DVR library of the two.
I will point out that in versions beginning 1.23.1.4571 (the one where the new interface began), you will only see one DVR in Settings to manage, but both libraries will appear in the sidebar menu.
If you want to view and manage both DVRs, that last version to ever to do this is 1.23.1.4528, which I’m currently running.
I stopped frequenting the forums for about 2 months and stopped using Plex, but I am back. Prior to this I had tried about 3 Beta versions beginning with the newer interface on 1.23.1.4571, but always reverted back to 1.23.0.4497. Today, after updating to the latest version (1.23.6.4810), the mix of EPG data is still not there unfortunately. I downgraded PMS again.
Side note: don’t expect Enhanced Guide to work with IPTV, it stopped working when Plex went back to using Gracenote. Basically, no posters, no season numbering for shows.
Yeah I’d read that it can be done that way but its a pain to then make changes. Also you end up with two LiveTV sections rather than a single combined LiveTV section with one guide containing all the channels. Why cant plex just allow us to add a tuner and add an xml guide alongside our tuners using Plex Guide? I’m pretty sure that Plex are simply grabbing an xml guide from Gracenote anyway so how complicated can it be to allow us to select from a custom xml as well?
Yeah, the only thing to do is wait it out and hope Plex does something for this kind of situation.
As for a “pain” to make any changes, there isn’t, at least on older builds prior to the interface change.
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