Sad, but true
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Why would Plex want to associate with a company who is under investigation for fraud? Why not intigrate with the company who has the most users ie, Spotify?
For my part I have set Tidal to disabled, and have no intention to enable it even if it was free.
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Easy to answer I guess. Spotify was probably either not interested or “too expensive”. Tidal who is struggeling is a more willing partner and/or is willing to pass on more money to get more users. Spotify’s problem is not the number of users, it is the money they have to pay to the record labels.
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I think the most obvious reason is that they made the partnership/association long before Jan 14, 2019.
Except that this didn’t start on… and was known before Jan 14 2019
pfft paying for more than 15 seats on emby can just bugger off, ive been using plex for years no issues at all.
All my users also have no issue connecting and using my server(s) i just dont like the fact that with emby you have to pay a monthy or yearly subscription for 15+ users thats just dumb i have way more than 15 firends / family members connected.
And its no better than plex i also dont have server bottle necks or anything as such.
Well, I hope you ate Crow for dinner tonight. I just went to plex.tv to launch my plex page, signed in, then a Tidal ad popped up that I had to clear before I could Launch my server.
So yeah, not impressed.
I have to admit, Emby’s BS licensing is keeping me from even looking at it.
To be fair, I was referring to ads playing before you could watch your own movie, but yeah, I can totally see how it’s annoying, and we’ve already discussed being less aggro with that full-page ad.
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Just to add my view, I paid for a lifetime pass years ago. Since then I have used Plex extensively but every new little thing just irritates me. I only play local media and share local media with other friends sometimes. I don’t want all this supposedly helpful additional junk. If I did, I would look for it and turn it on.
I resent that I can’t use Plex without being spied on ('net access always required) and I am sure it’s probably breaking some GDPR rules anyway. I want to be able to view or listen to my local media when I drop offline as my broadband sometimes does. There are now redundant settings that make naive users think this is still possible, but it’s simply not unless you are lucky enough to be viewing something at the time the 'net goes down. New sessions are verboten without logging it to “PLex In.c” (sic) for their aggregation and sale.
I don’t want to be treated as a farm animal and used to generate more revenue - that’s why I bought a lifetime pass in the first-place, to say “thanks” - but not to say “target me with more junk”.
Emby is better but still feels clunky. I am slowly getting annoyed enough however to try using it full time at home.
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Uhm, DUH you can just go to (https://app.plex.tv/desktop) to get your webadmin. Save that as your browser shortcut instead of the main plex website where no doubt there are going to be ads and info on new features and products.
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But that’s not how it works. It’s 15 Premiere devices, and a device only uses a Premiere slot when that device uses a Premiere feature. And then it only fills that slot for one week before the slot is released. The Premiere device limit is attached to a key, not a user, and the key can be used on any number of servers at the same time.
Extended Premiere kicks the Premiere device limit to (at least) 45 Premiere slots, which again, are only used when a device uses a Premiere feature and are released on a weekly basis.
The Emby devs say their intention was to have Emby function primarily as a single-household media server, and that having Premiere device limits was the best way to enforce it. It’s not unreasonable.
According to Emby’s Premiere Device Matrix, full playback of media on the Web App, Roku, ATV, and Samsung Smart TV doesn’t use a Premiere slot; nor does Android Mobile, Android TV, and iOS if you pay for their respective app unlocks, which is a one time thing.
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By the numbers:
https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/61236-emby-licensing-vs-plex/?p=605230
Yes, it is. Anytime a vendor tries to define my household, it’s unreasonable. I have 5 kids + Wife. Each kid has 2 devices, wife has 2, I have 4, plus 3 HTPC setups used in the house.
I’m not going to sit and look at their stupid chart to figure out what’s what and when. Plex at least gives me an all I can eat for 1 fixed price.
I’m an IT guy by profession. The amount of time we spend at work dealing with licensing is incredible. I’m not going to come home and do it as well.
If you limit me as to the number of devices I can have, then give me a stupid chart on top of it, it’s a non starter. That’s all. Web browser tab to your site closed.
With 5 kids, my life is busy enough the way it is, put a chart in front of my face, and it’s not even a consideration.
And Plex Pass is a one time thing. I down load, sign in, and app is registered. Done. (Which is maybe a no-time thing? LOL)
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You have to be aware, that pop-ups are annoying, no matter what!
It’s not just Plex, but go to almost any website these days and you get pop-ups for surveys, asking to send you notifications, join our mailing list, etc. I certainly don’t need one on a site to access a product I’ve already paid for!
I just have to ask…
Plex was originally founded on the principal of being a content organizer for people who already have content, or even easily generated free content (ie, Plex DVR).
This content is pretty much free/user supplied. It’s the heart of the traditional Plex user, I think you would agree.
What on earth makes you think marketing a pay for content strategy aimed at this demographic is going to be successful?
Theory: I think the goal is to make a Plex client a usable standalone option that does not necissarily require access to a shared server. With the talk of a possible free/commercial based film offering floating around, this might make sense.
I think they’re eyeballing a more comprehensive media delivery system than just a server admins stored content.
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Hey, you’re free to be pigheaded if you want to. That’s your prerogative.
I just don’t think you would likely ever hit the device limit in a single week, regardless of it being 7 people with 19 devices between you. And again, Premiere is tied to a key, not an account, so anyone can use it—Emby Connect account or not. I actually use my Premiere key for more devices than just my nuclear family. My parents also use my key, and their server isn’t even “Friends” with mine. Between us, we have more than enough devices and I’ve never had a problem.
I’m just saying, being all “You can’t define me. End of line.” is a ridiculous line to take. But hey, you do you, I guess.
Among things that matter: Plex is prettier, and it has better audiobook support; but Emby is faster to load, faster to play, is more stable, is more customizable, doesn’t break sync, and has devs who listen. Also Emby doesn’t force aggregation of servers or libraries by category, but we’ll just have to see how Plex answers that particular complaint.
The secret is out… Coming soon, PlexTV.
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You can insult me all you want, but some of us have family with real jobs. We don’t live in our mom’s basement and have time to play Fortnite all day like perhaps you are able to do.
Make your product complicated to use, and there’s a lot of us who just don’t have the time or desire to deal with it, regardless of how easy you think it might be.
Let’s also note that Plex Pass is a life time pass, and Plex seems to take that definition to mean exactly that. Where as Emby’s “life time” license is really only for the life time of that major version.
Granted, $120 every few years isn’t necessarily a big deal (especially if Mom is paying for it, or does she take it out of your allowance?) but to call it lifetime, then bury it in the T&C that it really isn’t, is kinda shadey…
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