Come on people. Let’s not go there. Our fight is not among ourselves.
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Dude. I said I put my key on their server. I didn’t say I live at their house.
Dang. I must have struck a nerve.
No, it isn’t. It may once have been, but it hasn’t been that way in ages. People at the Emby forums have asked that very question and ebr himself said Premiere Lifetime is not version-dependent.
Source: Emby Premiere Terms of Service - Emby
https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/67165-question-about-lifetime-license/
Lifetime Term: Lifetime shall mean the entire period in which the respective product, services, and/or features, as indicated below and updated from time to time, are offered for license.
don’t make me pull this thread over!
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So, with all the hate that the Plex devs get, I thought I’d just jump in…
I am not saying that there aren’t a lot of bugs I would like worked out, or features added (there are - I’ve dedicated posts to them before)… 
or that, as @chyron8472 points out the pricing scheme could be better… etc. etc. (Audiobooks)
But, I just want to say that the new TREBLE music player on Android and iOS is FREAKING AWESOME. @elan said awhile back that they wanted to make it best in class, and it is certainly well on its way… it has had (and does) have some bugs, but the most recent android build 7.11.xxxx corrects most of the ones I have experienced. The Android dev team has been kicking butt… including fixing optical passthrough on the Shield (Thanks @IanDBird) and the incorrectly displaying subtitles, to name a few…
It makes me SO happy to be able to stream and sync my music anywhere in the world… on my Phone, Shield, or Android Auto… especially in beautiful lossless codecs like ALAC.
One of the only things lacking in terms of the music experience, as far as I am concerned (other than Treble being in all Plex apps), is that it needs proper classical music tagging support.
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Tidal*.
TREBLE* 
TREBLE is the new Music player that Plex has built in house. It is currently available on iOS and Android… I do NOT use Tidal, although I don’t care, since I can disable it. 
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But but but I am all about that bass!
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To be sure, I do take issue with a number of things about Emby. Their UI isn’t very polished; The setup, while customizable, approaches convoluted; The music player on mobile isn’t nearly as fancy as Plex’s (especially now); And they still don’t quite have audiobook support implemented (although are well on their way with the new features in MB4.)
Additionally, the Emby devs say having an audiobook metadata plugin that scrapes Audible’s webpages without permission (like macr0dev’s does for Plex) is against Emby’s TOS, and that makes it that much more of a bother to need to manually populate much of my audiobook library’s metadata. So even if I can see their point, it’s still annoying.
I also have a soft spot for Plex, making it hard for me to give up. I just have had a number of stability issues, especially on Android, over the last year or two; and my wife saying that she got frustrated with instabilities on mobile to the point of not using it for video ever anymore was a rather large nail in that coffin. I really hated the new UI for quite a long time, although its recent improvements have let it grow on me somewhat; and I really do hope @elan and co. have actually learned their lesson on that front.
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yea naa i have more than 15 users on my plex server at any time and im not gonna pay an outrageous price for seating which is pointless and again i have not had issues with my plex server its stable as hell.
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I’m thinking about switching to Emby just so I can cast Live TV. I hate having to wait an hour to watch the news. I’ve searched but can anyone give me a definitive reason why this isn’t an option over a year later?
I’ve only had PLEX since late Nov 2018 and it’s been working great for me. I also run multiple servers at the same time. I’ve tried Emby with multiple servers and got it to work in the home but not outside the home. Can only seem to access 1 of the servers from outside the home, now none. Currently only using it from the browser to test it out but can’t make it have secured connections only like PLEX. You have to setup some cert, etc and seems way too complicated for my needs. To me PLEX just works.
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Well it seems as Plex Pass for life is not enough stream of income, so Plex Inc. decided to generate the dough from other sources. Maybe then the route Emby takes by introducing a (premiere) device limit is the more sustainable? Just sayin’, I don’t know the books of either of them.
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Can someone share the link to the iOS player?
the ios player is part of the ios plex app.
so just install the plex app from the apple app store.
Got that, but didn’t notice any recent major changes when playing music, which made me wonder if I am missing something. PlexPass only maybe?
@syncopation it should look similar to the Android player.. it features things like gapless playback, sweet fades, volume leveling, visualizers, better album art handling, etc.
good question, I remember at first the new ios player was beta/plex pass option.
might still be
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There’s the new iOS video player, which is Plex Pass only, but iOS also uses Treble for music, for everyone. There are some features of Treble that are Plex Pass only (volume levelling, Sweet Fades, and for Podcasts, silence compression and voice boost). You can read about it here: https://www.plex.tv/en-au/blog/turning-plex-music-up-to-eleventy/
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So, many months after becoming a lifetime Plex member, and seeing that Plex seems to have no interest in making it’s live TV and EPG offering on Andriod TV a serviceable solution for customers, I feel I had no option but to migrate to Emby who have a much better live TV & EPG, in fact everything seems to be faster and more configurable in Emby.
Things like:
1.Plex EPG does not update itself after you drop out of watching a programme
2. Try to tune to a programme and it only gives you a record option, despite the prog being live
3. Scheduled recordings, work, fail, work, fail, work, work, fail
4. Easy to get lost in the EPG if you scroll too far, it all gets messy
5. Search icon in the EPG does nothing, nothing at all
Nothing has changed in EPG for many many months despite numerous Plex updates to the app. I’ve had enough now.
Very disappointed in Plex using the pretence of it being a ‘Cable cutting’ solution, yet offering such a poor and seemingly unsupported live TV EPG.
Over to Emby then for me.
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No, that’s not the case. As I’ve pointed out elsewhere, we do these suggestions similarly to the way our metadata system works. For metadata, the server asks “hey, can I have posters for Lost”, e.g. and to drive this TIDAL stuff, it’s very similar, the server asks “hey, what artists do you have which are similar to Radiohead?” (I’m simplifying, but you get the idea). So we’re not collecting any more user data to drive these features.
It’s made sense to evolve the UI to better support online content ever since we had plugins (which, from a UI point of view, always felt a bit foreign and second-class).
This is the wrong conclusion to draw; I’ve always admitted that we made a mistake, and we’re in the process of working to correct that annoying type-pivoting, 2-level hierarchy of browsing. The new UI harkens back to PHT in terms of click efficiency and top-level structure.
Yep!
I mean, anecdotally I love e.g. TIDAL integration. The ability to augment one’s personal collection with suggestions and actual content from online sources is massively powerful.
Sure, it won’t appeal to everyone, but I’m not sure how you can argue that (for those willing to pay for a TIDAL sub) the ability to expand your musical horizons and discover new music isn’t a net plus.
Well, yeah. The ability for someone to quickly get up to speed with Plex w/o needing to install a server at first is pretty compelling. It reduces the barrier to entry/friction. I mean, this is sort of basic stuff.
Thank you so much!
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