You’re right. I completely misread that.
I wish I could remember if it aired as a feature length that night or across two air dates.
I still don’t understand why I end up with two screenshot grabs for “The Neutral Zone” at the end.
You’re right. I completely misread that.
I wish I could remember if it aired as a feature length that night or across two air dates.
I still don’t understand why I end up with two screenshot grabs for “The Neutral Zone” at the end.
We just covered that a few minutes ago
It must be past my
time
Ok.
So… to ask “the dumb support guy” again… What’s the real problem – or isn’t there one now?
Because everything is shifted by one episode, so you end with Plex thinking The Neutral Zone exists twice, even though it doesn’t.
There is no problem with Plex whatsoever
The issue is only with the differences in episode ordering between TMDB and TVDB. It all comes down to how you are naming things and which database you use. And this isn’t unique to TNG either. I have to fix this exact same thing with Miami Vice later…
To give you an idea:
Someone over at TVDB merged E01 and E02 into just E01, so my episodes are now shifted, which tricks Plex into thinking that E23 Lombard exists twice.
Thank you… I do see The Neutral Zone as a problem.
I stared out solving for that .
I think there is a parsing/counting issue in there somewhere too when used in the right combination…
That’s what I’m hoping to dig out if possible.
EDIT Giving up as it’s clearly above my intelligence level
at least I got my Star Trek DVDs sorted out and put back together properly
Does Plex not just create an item for everything it finds in the folder, whether it can match it or not?
So it finds and creates 26 items (as that’s what the file names indicate is the case). It then goes off to TMDB and retrieves matching metadata for the first 25 items. The remaining item (your S01E26 file) is unmatched but displayed using data taken from the file itself.
I’m curious many (most?) of you have the Episode names as part of the filename.
Is this just for the user’s visual benefit? Does Plex use this title tor the episode display, or does it still pull from the specified database?
What does Plex do if these titles differ?
It seems like a hell of a lot of work to add titles to filenames, Id hope this is automated.
I tried using Filebot once, never again.
Pretty much, yes.
Afaik, it only uses the filename title if the item is unmatched, otherwise it uses the metadata from matched source.
and this is likely what’s happening here, resulting in two of the same episodes, when things are shifted. Note that in this case Plex doesn’t list them as duplicates either, because, technically, they still have different numbering.
Edit: I don’t think it uses metadata from the file in this case (if that’s what you mean). It seems to me as if it then goes by the episode name rather than using an episode number that doesn’t exist.
So, in my Miami Vice example up there, it takes “S01E22 Evan” and matches that to “S01E22 Lombard”, ignoring the episode name. Then it finds another episode after that, “S01E23 Lombard”, which it can’t match because the number doesn’t exist in the database, so it discards the numbering and goes by episode name. We end up with a second “S01E22 Lombard”.
Filebot works great for this stuff, because you can tell it exactly which database and ordering you want it to use.
@ChuckPa - to bring this thread to a close, if I have learned anything, it’s that it would be very helpful for Plex to allow to change episode ordering at the season instead of (or in addition to) the series level.
If you could relay that to the devs…
Does that really make sense?
When you Rip (or “aquire”) a series, doesn’t it seem logical the entire Series it named against one standard (Aired or DVD) ?
You’d think so, but what I found last night is that when you set an entire show to TVDB DVD order, and that show has a “Specials” season in its aired order, but not in its DVD order, then that “Specials” season will no longer be identified as such. This happens, even if a similar “Specials” season exists on TMDB. Happened to me with Miami Vice.
Also, it would be beneficial to simply adjust whatever order you have your files in more easily with what the databases require for proper ordering at the time. Especially, when someone decides to mix merged double-episodes in one season with separate ones in another.
Just a quality of life improvement for those of us who like to micro-manage
I’ll chat with the dev and get his thoughts. If he likes it - one never knows?
As for me, I see a distinction between “micro-manage” and “A.R”
(… I did rerip the entire series because a few pieces of it weren’t right… haha )
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