I can only tell you, inclusive of the time to just get my stuff there, it’s been trying to finish scanning / matching / metadata loading for over 10 days now.
If I told you how big it really is, you’d call me “evil”, “insane”, “not right in the head” or any of a bunch of other colorful terms
There will be more invitations as the Beta progresses. It was necessary to keep the first group absolute minimal to work out the basic kinks. Each successive group will increase in size.
If I knew more about that schedule, I would share but not even we Ninjas are in the loop on those rollout details… sorry
Wait, did I read that the cloud server does a rescan each time it’s initially invoked? Even just rescanning existing libraries can cause quite a delay as collections expand. I guess I’ll just have to wait to see it to understand what we’re talking about.
What you read is, and I will be as clear as possible, with the extra details:
PMS does a quick “Update Library” when you first start the session if it’s not already running. Remember, Plex Cloud is ‘on-demand’. This is to be certain it’s in sync with any media changes you’ve made while it was ‘sleeping’.
This is no different than the incremental behavior you see when you make changes to your media library and Plex notices & updates as soon as it does.
Okay, so I did understand you. When I add a movie, my local server instance scans my movie library and grabs the metadata for it. The thing of it is, with 3000 movie entries and growing, there’s nothing particularly quick about the “quick scan”. It’s at least a couple of minutes on my system. Now that just might be a limitation due to access speeds to my volume, but I’m translating my experience to what you’re describing and coming up with “yuck”. It’s just something I’m going to have to see for myself.
@mdnitoil said:
Okay, so I did understand you. When I add a movie, my local server instance scans my movie library and grabs the metadata for it. The thing of it is, with 3000 movie entries and growing, there’s nothing particularly quick about the “quick scan”. It’s at least a couple of minutes on my system. Now that just might be a limitation due to access speeds to my volume, but I’m translating my experience to what you’re describing and coming up with “yuck”. It’s just something I’m going to have to see for myself.
I thought the same too when I first understood how things are. My DS1815+ nas does a Library Update of my ‘Movies’ share (directory) in a few seconds. Adding any new content will be the same whether local or remote with another nice exception. We will have Amazon’s network bandwidth to retrieve metadata with, not our limitations.
I have no idea what their selection process is, but I don’t think it has much to do with what you put in the signup form. I already had Amazon drive and I am still waiting. I think (hope) we just need to be patient, although the wait is killing me
It’s does ‘kinda’ help to have Amazon Cloud Drive (at least the free drive version) when you sign up since the Beta only connects with ACD at this time.
From my personal purely perspective only (nothing official here), if I were looking to beta test ACD functionality and someone didn’t have ACD, and having limited resources available, i’d set them aside until the second or later round of beta testing.
LOL @ChuckPa 10 days and its still loading metadata. That’s insane. I guess mine would take some time also. So far I’ve uploaded about 1,500 files but that includes some movies in there. And it takes time since I can’t have plex autoscanner work in my implementation of ACD+plex. I have to manually go in and sync the FS so plex can see the changes and then manually refresh my libraries. I share my server with my 5 other siblings and all 6 of us are constantly dumping files on our shared amazon drive account (because i paid for prime and storage xD) I’m not even remotely finished uploading my files. I still have a ton of anime for my nephew and a lot of VHS movies I need to put on.
Also I’m not sure if anyone noticed this at plex HQ but i did and it was funny. It better have been a remux or i will be disappointed.
@PutinShark said:
LOL @ChuckPa 10 days and its still loading metadata. That’s insane. I guess mine would take some time also. So far I’ve uploaded about 1,500 files but that includes some movies in there. And it takes time since I can’t have plex autoscanner work in my implementation of ACD+plex. I have to manually go in and sync the FS so plex can see the changes and then manually refresh my libraries. I share my server with my 5 other siblings and all 6 of us are constantly dumping files on our shared amazon drive account (because i paid for prime and storage xD) I’m not even remotely finished uploading my files. I still have a ton of anime for my nephew and a lot of VHS movies I need to put on.
Also I’m not sure if anyone noticed this at plex HQ but i did and it was funny. It better have been a remux or i will be disappointed.
Sorting out any performance issues like this is exactly what the Beta is for (12 days and still loading… not that I’m counting haha).
Why can’t you let Plex do a ‘Partial Scan’ when changes are detected? I do. That uses the iNotify mechanism and only scans the additions/changes.
Is there something like a recommended Uploadspeed? I find the idea of Plex Cloud pretty exciting and interesting, but i just have like 10 Mbit/s Upload and it would take ages (months :-/) to upload my stuff and i’m not sure with this speed it would be a good idea.
@Wunderwally said:
Is there something like a recommended Uploadspeed? I find the idea of Plex Cloud pretty exciting and interesting, but i just have like 10 Mbit/s Upload and it would take ages (months :-/) to upload my stuff and i’m not sure with this speed it would be a good idea.
While it would take “considerable” time, once done it’s done. I personally needed help from a friend who has significantly higher upload than my laughable 1.5 Mbps.
The ideal solution is to look at how frequently you add new content, the size of the content to be added, and then calculate whether you can complete the first upload before you are ready to add the next or not. This will be the governing factor