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Since the new music db got implemented i have seen that the matching of artists specifically the genre is not working properly. an example of that is an artists like rush. The genres recognized before the implementation are:
Classig Prog, Progressive Rock, rock. Testing the the new functionality by doing a metadata match automatically sets the genres as Pop/Rock… Slayer is another example. and the lsit goes on an on and on. my files are flac.
then it sucks, plain and simple. anybody and their mom knows that Slayer IS NOT Pop/Rock. the good thing is that i have forced the server to use my own metadata instead. i am using slayer as an extreme example but that the issue. something obscure i would understand that the system might have issues properly identifying stuff…but on something as ovious as slayer it ode snot make sense and yes i see that if you search for Slayer on the allmusic website the genre is Pop/Rock WTF. that is a blatant oversight, not only of allmusic but also from plex. Seems to me that changing metadata was done lightly
This is a big change from the old system regardless of where the metadata is gathered from. With the old version of Plex Music, the Artist always inherited the genres from the albums, which in turn gathered that info from the individual tracks. You did need to have “Prefer Local metadata” enabled for it to work. (The setting name has changed, but the same function, I presume)
Plex only showed two genres on the Artist page, but if you opened the editing page, all of the genres were listed.
Now, even if “Prefer local Metadata” is enabled, the Artist is assigned a genre from wherever it comes from. The user has to manually edit the genre for each and every artist if they want something that matches how they prefer the genres to be. Artists that do not show up at MusicBrainz don’t get a genre at all, even if the artist is available at AllMusic.
Example, the Willie Nelson & Leon Russell collaboration album, “One for the Road” Plex will insist the album is a solo album by Willie Nelson, until you manually split the artist so that it recognizes the embedded Album Artist tags. Now, even though the album is listed at AllMusic, as a collaboration by Willie Nelson and Leon Russel, who have a genre of “Country” and styles of “Pop/Rock, Outlaw Country, Progressive Country, and Traditional Country” there are no genres or styles attached to the artist.
Simply put, if Plex respects the genres you use in the embedded metadata of your albums and tracks (and it does, as far as I can tell), that should be reflected in the genre for the artist. We shouldn’t have to live with a genre assigned to the artist by someone else.
Curious how you did that. I can get Plex to use my metadata for the album genres, but the Artist’s genres are a lost cause unless I manually edit them.
AllMusic only has 21 Genres.
Avant-Garge
Blues
Children’s
Classical
Comedy/Spoken
Country
Easy Listening
Electronic
Folk
Holiday
International
Jazz
Latin
New Age
Pop/Rock
R&B
Rap
Reggae
Religious
Stage & Screen
Vocal
like i said before somebody at plex should have taken this into consideration instead of forcing the user to then send those corrections specially when we have taken all the steps to make sure that the metadata in our files is correct
They’ve all got mistakes. Years ago, I found a New Age artist that Gracenote put under Acid Rock. It eventually got corrected, but all these databases began with user-entered data, and they were riddled with errors. Still are, as far as I’m concerned. I prefer my local data too. So this new source has Slayer miscategorized, while the old one didn’t. Tough luck for Slayer fans, good luck for fans of bands that AllMusic got right that Gracenote had wrong (and it’s a lot easier to submit corrections to AllMusic than to Gracenote).
Wait… AllMusic does not have just plain “Rock” as a genre?
No wonder the Plex assigned artist genre is screwy to me.
And really tough luck for people like me, who relied on data that was embedded within the tracks to be inherited by the artist, and didn’t use or rely on any agents to assign a genre to the artist.
I don’t have a single track in my library with a genre tag of “Pop/Rock” I have tracks that are “Rock” and tracks that are “Pop” and tracks that are “Pop Rock” and some have all three genres Most tracks have multiple genres attached, so a song is “Easy Listening” as well as “Jazz” Are we saying that’s a" no-no" for Plex
Not to mention the non-existent genre of “Christmas” I’ve assigned to a couple of hundred tracks so I could create a smart playlist that included only tracks with or without that genre. Oh wait… we can’t filter by track genre or track artist or track mood or track anything for that matter with the new music system. Everything is Album or Artist based.I keep forgetting that all tracks on an album are the same genre.
@ahiguero – perhaps editing the title of this thread to mention “genre” somehow could get the attention of the Plex devs a little sooner. Personally I would consider it a “bug” not to respect the genres we have assigned, at the very least a big oversight or assumption that AllMusic is absolutely 100% correct, and our own applied genres are not
Found the solution!!! Surprised that one of the Ninjas or a Dev never told us it’s an easy fix.
You will need to edit the music library, and in the “Advanced” section, scroll down to “Genres” and change the setting from the default Plex Music to Embedded Tags. You should also make sure that “Prefer Local Metadata” is also enabled.
Click “Save Changes,” and the library will be re-scanned with the new settings. When the scan completes, the Artist Genres will still be the same as before with the generic “Pop/Rock” etc. BUT, if you refresh the metadata for the library, now Plex will change the genres of your Artists to match the genres from all of the albums/tracks associated with that Artist. Takes a while for all of the new information to be applied, but worth the wait as far as I’m concerned. The Artists genres now make sense to me.
The artist page will only show two genres, but if you go to the edit page for artist, all of the associated genres from the albums will be shown there.
I wonder why it’s not recommended? I tried on a test library first, to make sure I still got all of the artist bios, and the moods and styles for the albums and artists, and they all seemed to work right.
I really prefer the Artist genre to reflect the albums, so I hope it’s not something that will bite me you know where at some point in time.
the suggestion is working i have done rush dream theater (those artist were not scanned before using all music) chances are you might need to make some manual corrections but at least we have a solution
