I would like to offer in my region where I live streaming services (identical to Netflix) and would like to use the premium Plex for this.
I wonder if this is viable and possible with Plex?
Could anyone tell me how I get the copyright of the series and movies to use on my plex server?
thank you!
ps. I live in Brazil
@âWillian Macedoâ said:
I would like to offer in my region where I live streaming services (identical to Netflix) and would like to use the premium Plex for this.
I wonder if this is viable and possible with Plex?
You are not allowed to do this.
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/plex-terms-of-service/
Also, Plex canât grant you usage of these videos. You would need to contact the original copyright holders.
Actually, you can.
Its against the TOS, but thereâs nothing preventing you from hosting a vpn and doing so. A lot of people on reddit do this.
The people on reddit dont charge a âfeeâ, but ârequest a specific amount as a monthly donationâ. So they arenât âsellingâ, they are making do from the âgenerosity of othersâ.
Just hop on reddit, and youâll see hundreds doing it
@negfusion said:
Actually, you can.Its against the TOS, but thereâs nothing preventing you from hosting a vpn and doing so. A lot of people on reddit do this.
The people on reddit dont charge a âfeeâ, but ârequest a specific amount as a monthly donationâ. So they arenât âsellingâ, they are making do from the âgenerosity of othersâ.Just hop on reddit, and youâll see hundreds doing it
You can also just walk into a store and try and walkout with product you havenât paid for, and I guess if you arenât caught it must have been OK with the store that you did it.
This isnt a debate.
I am telling you facts of what can and canât be done (and what others) are doing.
@negfusion said:
This isnt a debate.I am telling you facts of what can and canât be done (and what others) are doing.
Yep, youâre right - it isnât a debate. The answer is no, you canât do it (splitting hairs about the definition of âcanâtâ is stupid, so donât bother going down that road). Yeah, everyone is fully aware that people are constantly violating the TOS. That doesnât change the fact that you arenât allowed to use Plex in that fashion.
agradeco a todos por responder!
mas que fique explicito nao quero fazer pirataria, eu ia comprar os direitos autorais dos filmes e series que ia utilizar em meu servidor Plex!
vou ver outros meios dentro das leis de tornar isto possivel!
obrigado mais uma vez a todos!
Plex still canât and wonât negotiate streaming rights or enforce any DRM. Youâre on your own for that.
@negfusion said:
Actually, you can.Its against the TOS, but thereâs nothing preventing you from hosting a vpn and doing so. A lot of people on reddit do this.
The people on reddit dont charge a âfeeâ, but ârequest a specific amount as a monthly donationâ. So they arenât âsellingâ, they are making do from the âgenerosity of othersâ.
Yes, this is still against the TOS. The TOS has nothing to do with money. Plex may not be used for commercial purposes. Whether that is âsellingâ or âaccepting donationsâ, itâs still commercial activity. Whether Plex will track you down or not and take action, thatâs another issue.
@kegobeer-plex said:
@negfusion said:
This isnt a debate.I am telling you facts of what can and canât be done (and what others) are doing.
Yep, youâre right - it isnât a debate. The answer is no, you canât do it (splitting hairs about the definition of âcanâtâ is stupid, so donât bother going down that road). Yeah, everyone is fully aware that people are constantly violating the TOS. That doesnât change the fact that you arenât allowed to use Plex in that fashion.
The answer is yes. Yes you can.
Itâs like buying a new car, and asking: âCan this car do 200K/h down a residential road with two elementary schools near by?â The answer is, Yes. It can. There may be consequences, but yes you can drive it.
Should you? No. You Shouldnât.
As far as âallowed to use plex in that fashionâ, its a free to use software. What are they going to do? Theyâre not even involved in the puzzle, you set a library, you share it, they access it, the people you share it with, pay you.
Anyways⊠you agreed this isnt a debate, yet you are arguing. In case it wasnât clear, I wasnât saying he should, I was simply answering his question with evidence that others are doing exactly what he does. Not advocating it.
@MovieFan.Plex said:
@negfusion said:
Actually, you can.Its against the TOS, but thereâs nothing preventing you from hosting a vpn and doing so. A lot of people on reddit do this.
The people on reddit dont charge a âfeeâ, but ârequest a specific amount as a monthly donationâ. So they arenât âsellingâ, they are making do from the âgenerosity of othersâ.Yes, this is still against the TOS. The TOS has nothing to do with money. Plex may not be used for commercial purposes. Whether that is âsellingâ or âaccepting donationsâ, itâs still commercial activity. Whether Plex will track you down or not and take action, thatâs another issue.
Thatâs the problem about being freeware, you can lay out as many TOS as you like, but if thereâs no follow up, itâs weak.
Plex certainly wouldnât be the first freeware service not for commercial use that is used as such.
But seriously, as a Plex employee, you must know of the reddit where people regularly sell acess to their libraries. Not a single report, in years, about them being shut down, or pursued for legal fees. Itâs great to put all the DOs and DONTs in writing in a TOS (like people read these, right?), but if nothing is done to the people that break the rules⊠thatâs on you.
Its your playing field. Its your software. Its your rules. Make sure people follow them, or else you are just being derivative here by saying NO YOU CANT.
My 2 cents.
@negfusion said:
But seriously, as a Plex employee, you must know of the reddit where people regularly sell acess to their libraries. Not a single report, in years, about them being shut down, or pursued for legal fees.
We do take action against accounts, when we deem it necessary.
@âMovieFan.Plexâ
Glad to know you take action, but the thriving community on reddit would beg to differ. Pretty sure if there was some action taken, weâd see posts like: âOMG I CANT LOGIN TO MY ACCOUNT, so I had to create another account!!â
@negfusion said:
@âMovieFan.PlexâGlad to know you take action, but the thriving community on reddit would beg to differ. Pretty sure if there was some action taken, weâd see posts like: âOMG I CANT LOGIN TO MY ACCOUNT, so I had to create another account!!â
I would say you havenât looked very closely then. 1st result from a Google search âŠ
https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/45bo11/plex_banning_accounts_that_share_with_people_for/
The question has been answered. Probably should close this thingâŠ
@astrofisher - Buzz Killjoy Killington.
I think the other employees and ninjas have spoken about the TOS so I wonât comment.
@âWillian Macedoâ what I would suggest is not worrying right now about what software you would use to host a Netflix type service but to concentrate your efforts on talking to the studios and license holders to see how much it will cost you to legally obtain the content. I think the costs will change your mind completely about wanting to try anything similar to this.
These costs will easily be in the multimillion dollar ranges per studio so I hope you have deep pockets! This is a cut rate business for Netflix itself and itâs constantly loosing access rights to content as the studios and creating their own services.
Get your business plan together and look at just the costs of licensing the material before taking another step.
Carlo
It is conceivable that this guy is simply pulling your leg saying he will buy the rights for the content.
I foresee a different problem, a very simple one. I cannot imagine a connection in Brasil with sufficient upstream speed to serve more than one client. Or a computer powerful enough to transcode. Quality would start low and quickly fall to zero.
So he wouldât just be doing something illegal (no big deal there), but making âcustomersâ unhappy (and they wear machetes).
I doubt the OP is one of those Monkey-Eating-Natives with a bone through his nose living in the rain forest and it is conceivable that cities or even villages in Brazil do have internet even better than mine here in the rain forest in West Virginia. There are still places in the âLand of the Free and Home of those in fear of their Presidentâ that have yet to be trodden on.
Gotta Go - I need to put an Opossum on the Grill.
⊠"The âOâ is silent, you Redneck,
âŠand so was I until you shot at me!"