Can I sell premium Plex services like Netflix?

I would like to offer in my region where I live streaming services (identical to Netflix) and would like to use the premium Plex for this.
I wonder if this is viable and possible with Plex?
Could anyone tell me how I get the copyright of the series and movies to use on my plex server?
thank you!
ps. I live in Brazil

@“Willian Macedo” said:
I would like to offer in my region where I live streaming services (identical to Netflix) and would like to use the premium Plex for this.
I wonder if this is viable and possible with Plex?

You are not allowed to do this.
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/plex-terms-of-service/

Also, Plex can’t grant you usage of these videos. You would need to contact the original copyright holders.

Actually, you can.

Its against the TOS, but there’s nothing preventing you from hosting a vpn and doing so. A lot of people on reddit do this.
The people on reddit dont charge a “fee”, but “request a specific amount as a monthly donation”. So they aren’t “selling”, they are making do from the “generosity of others”.

Just hop on reddit, and you’ll see hundreds doing it :slight_smile:

@negfusion said:
Actually, you can.

Its against the TOS, but there’s nothing preventing you from hosting a vpn and doing so. A lot of people on reddit do this.
The people on reddit dont charge a “fee”, but “request a specific amount as a monthly donation”. So they aren’t “selling”, they are making do from the “generosity of others”.

Just hop on reddit, and you’ll see hundreds doing it :slight_smile:

You can also just walk into a store and try and walkout with product you haven’t paid for, and I guess if you aren’t caught it must have been OK with the store that you did it.

This isnt a debate.

I am telling you facts of what can and can’t be done (and what others) are doing.

@negfusion said:
This isnt a debate.

I am telling you facts of what can and can’t be done (and what others) are doing.

Yep, you’re right - it isn’t a debate. The answer is no, you can’t do it (splitting hairs about the definition of “can’t” is stupid, so don’t bother going down that road). Yeah, everyone is fully aware that people are constantly violating the TOS. That doesn’t change the fact that you aren’t allowed to use Plex in that fashion.

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agradeco a todos por responder!

mas que fique explicito nao quero fazer pirataria, eu ia comprar os direitos autorais dos filmes e series que ia utilizar em meu servidor Plex!

vou ver outros meios dentro das leis de tornar isto possivel!

obrigado mais uma vez a todos!

Plex still can’t and won’t negotiate streaming rights or enforce any DRM. You’re on your own for that.

@negfusion said:
Actually, you can.

Its against the TOS, but there’s nothing preventing you from hosting a vpn and doing so. A lot of people on reddit do this.
The people on reddit dont charge a “fee”, but “request a specific amount as a monthly donation”. So they aren’t “selling”, they are making do from the “generosity of others”.

Yes, this is still against the TOS. The TOS has nothing to do with money. Plex may not be used for commercial purposes. Whether that is “selling” or “accepting donations”, it’s still commercial activity. Whether Plex will track you down or not and take action, that’s another issue.

@kegobeer-plex said:

@negfusion said:
This isnt a debate.

I am telling you facts of what can and can’t be done (and what others) are doing.

Yep, you’re right - it isn’t a debate. The answer is no, you can’t do it (splitting hairs about the definition of “can’t” is stupid, so don’t bother going down that road). Yeah, everyone is fully aware that people are constantly violating the TOS. That doesn’t change the fact that you aren’t allowed to use Plex in that fashion.

The answer is yes. Yes you can.

It’s like buying a new car, and asking: “Can this car do 200K/h down a residential road with two elementary schools near by?” The answer is, Yes. It can. There may be consequences, but yes you can drive it.

Should you? No. You Shouldn’t.

As far as “allowed to use plex in that fashion”, its a free to use software. What are they going to do? They’re not even involved in the puzzle, you set a library, you share it, they access it, the people you share it with, pay you.

Anyways
 you agreed this isnt a debate, yet you are arguing. In case it wasn’t clear, I wasn’t saying he should, I was simply answering his question with evidence that others are doing exactly what he does. Not advocating it. :slight_smile:

@MovieFan.Plex said:

@negfusion said:
Actually, you can.

Its against the TOS, but there’s nothing preventing you from hosting a vpn and doing so. A lot of people on reddit do this.
The people on reddit dont charge a “fee”, but “request a specific amount as a monthly donation”. So they aren’t “selling”, they are making do from the “generosity of others”.

Yes, this is still against the TOS. The TOS has nothing to do with money. Plex may not be used for commercial purposes. Whether that is “selling” or “accepting donations”, it’s still commercial activity. Whether Plex will track you down or not and take action, that’s another issue.

That’s the problem about being freeware, you can lay out as many TOS as you like, but if there’s no follow up, it’s weak.

Plex certainly wouldn’t be the first freeware service not for commercial use that is used as such.

But seriously, as a Plex employee, you must know of the reddit where people regularly sell acess to their libraries. Not a single report, in years, about them being shut down, or pursued for legal fees. It’s great to put all the DOs and DONTs in writing in a TOS (like people read these, right?), but if nothing is done to the people that break the rules
 that’s on you.

Its your playing field. Its your software. Its your rules. Make sure people follow them, or else you are just being derivative here by saying NO YOU CANT.

My 2 cents.

@negfusion said:
But seriously, as a Plex employee, you must know of the reddit where people regularly sell acess to their libraries. Not a single report, in years, about them being shut down, or pursued for legal fees.

We do take action against accounts, when we deem it necessary.

@“MovieFan.Plex”

Glad to know you take action, but the thriving community on reddit would beg to differ. Pretty sure if there was some action taken, we’d see posts like: “OMG I CANT LOGIN TO MY ACCOUNT, so I had to create another account!!” :blush:

@negfusion said:
@“MovieFan.Plex”

Glad to know you take action, but the thriving community on reddit would beg to differ. Pretty sure if there was some action taken, we’d see posts like: “OMG I CANT LOGIN TO MY ACCOUNT, so I had to create another account!!” :blush:

I would say you haven’t looked very closely then. 1st result from a Google search 


https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/45bo11/plex_banning_accounts_that_share_with_people_for/

The question has been answered. Probably should close this thing


@astrofisher - Buzz Killjoy Killington.

:slight_smile:

I think the other employees and ninjas have spoken about the TOS so I won’t comment.

@“Willian Macedo” what I would suggest is not worrying right now about what software you would use to host a Netflix type service but to concentrate your efforts on talking to the studios and license holders to see how much it will cost you to legally obtain the content. I think the costs will change your mind completely about wanting to try anything similar to this.

These costs will easily be in the multimillion dollar ranges per studio so I hope you have deep pockets! This is a cut rate business for Netflix itself and it’s constantly loosing access rights to content as the studios and creating their own services.

Get your business plan together and look at just the costs of licensing the material before taking another step.

Carlo

It is conceivable that this guy is simply pulling your leg saying he will buy the rights for the content.

I foresee a different problem, a very simple one. I cannot imagine a connection in Brasil with sufficient upstream speed to serve more than one client. Or a computer powerful enough to transcode. Quality would start low and quickly fall to zero.

So he would’t just be doing something illegal (no big deal there), but making “customers” unhappy (and they wear machetes).

I doubt the OP is one of those Monkey-Eating-Natives with a bone through his nose living in the rain forest and it is conceivable that cities or even villages in Brazil do have internet even better than mine here in the rain forest in West Virginia. There are still places in the ‘Land of the Free and Home of those in fear of their President’ that have yet to be trodden on.

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