Can't stream UHD video from Plex Media Server to Sony Android TV? True?

Server Version#: Version 1.15.4.993 running on a MAC with Mac OS Mojave
Player Version#: Plex for Android v7.14.1.9954

Is it true that I cannot stream 4K UHD videos from the Plex Media Server to my Sony Android TV? The video will be transcoded to a lower resolution version to play on the TV.

Thanks in advance.

No, not true.

I have a 4K video on my Mac with Plex Media Server. When I stream to my TV… it says…
Player: ExoPlayer v2
Video: Transcode
Audio: Transcode
Size: 1280x676

Can please let me know what I need to do to get 4K video to play on my TV? I have already set whatever settings on the media server to stream at Maximum resolution.

Thanks.

Might be worth posting your server logs and details of the file you are trying to play.

I have a Sony Android TV and all my 4K films play just fine although because my soundbar only does Dolby Digital it will transcode the audio if it is in 7.1 rather than 5.1.

OK. Would the fact that I am using the free account have anything to do with it? I notice you have a Plex Pass. Oh and thank you for your replies… it is much appreciated!

I’m looking at the Plex features and it does promise 4K support for both Free and Premium users so I guess that’s not it.

Not sure if it means anything… but the file I am trying to stream is a mkv file and the name of the file is MovieName2018.2160p.UHD.BluRay.X265-DEFLATE.

What settings do you have for:

Video Quality

In the app settings on your TV

I have a top of the line 2018 Sony TV, and it can play 4K via plex but stutters. I’m ā€˜Direct Play’ 60GByte 4k h.265, and what it comes down to is that Sony cheaped out on the network connectivity. The ethernet is 100Mbit, not 1Gbit, and the AC WiFi ā€œapparentlyā€ runs through a USB2 controller so never reaches it’s potential. A 4k video that needs under say 80Mbit throughput should play fine when wired.

It’s not a weak CPU like some sopurces claim, beacuse if you plug in a HardDrive and play the native 4k video via VLC, it plays fine.

Regarding your lower quality, I’m guessing that you have the settings in plex enabled to reduce quality if there is not enough bandwidth.

This is is all assuming that the Plex app is making use of hardware decoding like VLC does.

Video Quality Settings on the app on the TV is…

Adjust automatically: On
Home Streaming: Maximum
Remote Streaming: 2Mbps 720p HD (I won’t be doing any remote streaming)
Play Smaller Videos: On

As a test you could try setting Adjust automatically to Off

And then see if it attempts to Direct Play / Direct Stream.

If it does, you may well find that it buffers for the reasons rdorian mentions above

Yeah on mine the ethernet is slower than the WiFi connection, Sony must have saved pennies per TV to cripple the connectivity but I do get 200Mbps+ to the TV though on a speed test so plenty enough for 4K video.

If you post your server logs it’ll say in them why the TV has chosen to transcode.

Oh and no, as far as I know Plex Pass makes no difference to what Plex will play. I have it for additional local users and hardware transcoding although I’m not sure that still needs Plex Pass.

Sorry, my post above was aimed at yourself :slight_smile:

Out of interest, which Sony TV is it?

That sucks what Sony did with the Ethernet port…

It’s a Sony Bravia KD55X7500F.

I turned Adjust Automatically to OFF… now I get:

Player: ExoPlayer v2
Video: Transcode
Audio: Transcode
Size: 3840 x 2026

It still does not DirectPlay. And the video also stutters… tells me… ā€œYour connection to the server is not fast enough to stream this video. Check your network or try a lower quality.ā€

I tested and I have a 216Mbps Wifi connection to my router.

I also get an error message that says " This server is not powerful enough to convert video."

sigh…

I have been testing my Sony Android TV and it struggles with 4K

Does the plex app not show you the reason for transcoding or are you trying to use subtitles?

for example, this is what I get on one of mine
(If I do not choose the correct supported audio track):

Player: ExoPlayer v2
Video: Transcode
Audio: Transcode
Size: 3840 x 2160
Transcode Reason TrueHD audio is not supported by the device

^^^^^ Is this correct? as I would expect it to be 2160 not 2026

And for the speed test results, are you running that from the TV or your Computer.

If I run a speedtest from my laptop with wifi, I get 382Mbps.

If I run a speedtest app on my tv I only get 77 Mbps

Both in the same room connected to the same 5Ghz wifi network

to augment… it seems to only struggles with the high bandwidth files. (Remuxed files rather than re-encoded) which makes sense due to the poor networking capabilities Sony have decided to provide in their TV’s

But depending on the audio stream in the video file, they may still attempt to transcode.

Edit: And I am guessing the file you have may have a TrueHD.7.1 audio track, which may not be supported on the TV (They are not supported on mine)

Just to add to the conversation. My 4K video is direct play (MKV container, h.265 video codec), but the audio is a transcode from True HD or ATMOS to 2.1.

The average file Bitrate should be around 65MBit/sec for me so both ethernet and WiFi should be fine, but my issue is the audio conversion. True HD conversions and ATMOS seem to be too much for the Shield 2018s general CPU cores.

I’m testing with a 2 core Celeron and an i7 6 core 5820k to see how much CPU is actually needed to transcode TrueHD and ATMOS.

@Andrew_Tang So you’re now streaming in 4k, so that one step closer. Now to figure out why your transcoding. What is the container and audio/video codecs for the file that’s transcoding? e.g. MKV, h.264, AC3. You can get this information with something like the MediaInfo app.

My TV is a Sony BRAVIA KD65XF9005BU.

Update: I downloaded another file ie… [FileName 2018 REMUX 2160p (10bit) BluRay UHD HDR HEVC TrueHD DTS-HD MA 7 1-LEGi0N] and this does DirectPlay for me. This is a 61Gb size file. Though it’s about 99% smooth, not 100%. There are barely noticeable glitches every now and then but the video does not stutter to the point where it’s unwatchable. The speedtest I posted above is from the TV. I don’t know why the first file gave me 3840 x 2026… might be that was what was wrong with it in the first place. I do use subtitles. But there are also subtitles in the second file… but it did DirectPlay for me. Yes seems to be TrueHD7.1 is not supported but then the video shouldn’t say Transcode only the audio? I am just guessing. lol…

And I truly appreciate all comments here… you guys have been really helpful to an Android TV, 4K and Plex noob here… haha. Thanks again!!