This is really awesome! What about Ceton IP InfiniTV cards? It would be great to utilize the investment I currently have on my IP based tuner cards.
+1
Nothing against the Silicon Dust products, but like OP, I’d love to leverage my current investment to migrate off of WMC. Fingers crossed! 
+1 that would be awesome
Same thing…if Plex were to support DVBLink based tuners, that would be epic. I could finally replace WMC. I need DVBLink to deal with my cable card in NZ.
I am in the same boat, but I am also painfully aware that Ceton seems to completely abandoned us. This may be the push I need to finally retire the card and moveven on.
I’m fairly sure that this works because the HDHomeRun series exposes its tuners via DLNA. I have had Ceton’s tuners in the past and have found them to be less reliable than SiliconDust’s; more to the point, I am fairly sure that they are not DLNA compatible.
I agree that it would be great to move away from WMC. SiliconDust is actually working on their own DVR program, which is currently also in beta. So far it works pretty well - it appears that DRM channel support is being held up by Microsoft policy stupidity but once that happens, huzzah. Between the SiliconDust option and the Plex Pass one, hopefully we’ll be able to dump WMC, the notoriously unreliable Ceton Echos, and our Xbox 360s (for TV anyway) and finally move to Rokus and low-powered HTPCs
I never used Echo’s for a variety of reasons. The biggest was the speed/performance. I use Xbox’s as WMC Extenders…currently at 4 and they work remarkably well. Currently my Ceton cards are connected to a Media Center PC that hosts an internal 4 tuner and external InfiniTV 6 tuner (IP based).
Trust me, DRM has NOTHING to do with Microsoft and EVERYTHING to do with the CableCARD consortium and the cable industry not wanting to step on media DRM rights holders. If SiliconDust is having DRM problems, it’s because they don’t want to pay the CableCARD “tax” to the cable companies.
I’d just hate to abandon the investment that I have in Ceton, especially my 6 tuner IfiniTV that just works flawlessly 24/7! Hopefully Plex will see that those that invest in their product own platforms other than fruit.
@bilditup1 said:
I agree that it would be great to move away from WMC. SiliconDust is actually working on their own DVR program, which is currently also in beta. So far it works pretty well - it appears that DRM channel support is being held up by Microsoft policy stupidity but once that happens, huzzah. Between the SiliconDust option and the Plex Pass one, hopefully we’ll be able to dump WMC, the notoriously unreliable Ceton Echos, and our Xbox 360s (for TV anyway) and finally move to Rokus and low-powered HTPCs
Actually i was thinking about this this morning. With the Ceton card and MCEBuddy what added benefit does the Plex DVR functionality with Silicon dust provide. Don’t get me wrong i know we need to move away from Windows Media Center, but really at this point what benefit does it offer. Other then saving maybe an hour or two between record and MCEbuddy doing it’s thing to convert, trim commercials, and properly tag the shows what is improved.
For what it’s worth, I have a Ceton InfiniTV 4 PCIe and would be willing to work with devs if they wanted to test the DVR beta with this. In fact, I don’t even use it right now, so I could ship it to you guys on my dime. I have a Cisco STA1520 digital tuner with a cable card rented from TWC. PM me if I can be of any assistance.
@henryr01 said:
Trust me, DRM has NOTHING to do with Microsoft and EVERYTHING to do with the CableCARD consortium and the cable industry not wanting to step on media DRM rights holders. If SiliconDust is having DRM problems, it’s because they don’t want to pay the CableCARD “tax” to the cable companies.
This is incorrect. Nick at SiliconDust has gone on record saying that the encryption issues with respect to the HDHomeRun player app in the Windows 10 store are caused by Microsoft’s policies, and that he is closer to enabling viewing of DRM’d channels on the viewer apps for other platforms. You can take a look at SD’s PVR beta forums or the original kickstarter and find this information quickly enough.
As for the Ceton tuners - not using DLNA or UPnP is probably killing the deal. It’s understandable why they neither support them or the original UPnP-free SiliconDust ones.
@bilditup1 said:
This is incorrect. Nick at SiliconDust has gone on record saying that the encryption issues with respect to the HDHomeRun player app in the Windows 10 store are caused by Microsoft’s policies, and that he is closer to enabling viewing of DRM’d channels on the viewer apps for other platforms. You can take a look at SD’s PVR beta forums or the original kickstarter and find this information quickly enough.As for the Ceton tuners - not using DLNA or UPnP is probably killing the deal. It’s understandable why they neither support them or the original UPnP-free SiliconDust ones.
Sorry to disagree. I work at Microsoft and you couldn’t be any further from the truth. Wait, you’re taking a quote from a “kickstarter” program, who’s entire intent is to drum up interest (aka revenue), PRIOR to a product being shipped or produced?!?
It literally took us YEARS to get cable tuners on PCs ONLY because of the CableCARD consortium. The reason there’s no “open source” CableCARD tuner is because there’s no one willing to pay their fees, with the exception of 3rd Party products (like Silicon Dust).
Now Windows codec’s are a different story…
Let’s bring the topic back to focus, +1 to support Cetong Carble cards in Plex. i have been waiting years for plext to support Ceton cards (or any other good IP based tuner which supports cable cards and 6 tuners).
+1 to bring Ceton tuner support to Plex - I believe there is a large contingency with a WMC / Ceton setup, including myself, that are looking for a good way to move away from WMC and bring Live / DVR TV (OTA and CableCard) into Plex. I would love to add my 6 tuner InfiniTV CableCard tuner to Plex and get rid of unsupported WMC…
Ceton 6 tuner PCI + Plex + live viewing would be AMAZING for me at this point. I have tried several “other” PVR applications and they leave MUCH to be desired. I have stuck with WMC because it tunes (compared to others) fastest, setup is most straight forward and it just works. But anyone running W7 with WMC is on borrowed time. The end is indeed nigh.
I’m in the same boat. Currently using Ceton 4 tuner card with WMC on Windows 7 and aware of the pending loss of support/guide but staying for now because of the hardware investment.
I am also stuck using my Ceton 4 tuner and windows 7 WMC, whoever solves DRM recording first will get my money so fast it isn’t even funny. I do not care what tuner system I have to obtain.
@Cheatdeath said:
I do not care what tuner system I have to >obtain.
There are current options. You can purchase/use a SiliconDust HomeRun tuner with PLEX. It is currently limited on playback of LIVE TV though. SiliconDust has its OWN PVR software at a cost of $35/year for guide access. That is excessive IMO considering how expensive their tuners are. Every 3 years of guide access equals cost of their tuner card.
@Cheatdeath said:
I am also stuck using my Ceton 4 tuner and windows 7 WMC, whoever solves DRM recording first will get my money so fast it isn’t even funny. I do not care what tuner system I have to obtain.
There won’t be any DRM recording from what I’ve learned. That requires certifications from CableLabs which are very expensive. A current off-the-shelf DVR or one from your cable company is the only solution.
@kegobeer-plex said:
There won’t be any DRM recording from what I’ve learned. That requires certifications from CableLabs which are very expensive. A current off-the-shelf DVR or one from your cable company is the only solution.
Is this true? PLEX dev or Engineers? Current PLEX + SiliconDust Primes DO NOT record premium channels? If so, then it is NOT worth it. PERIOD. As for DRM, the tuner is what grants access as negotiated with the cable provider. The software must ensure recording it properly protected (ie copy freely and copy once).
If PLEX doesn’t record premium channels, then it isn’t for me.
