Comments on: Plex Roku Preview: A Faster, Simpler Navigation Experience

Discover is a good way to see upcoming movie trailers. I add them to my watch list for a listing of movies I will add to “my” server. Everyone has the option to use it or not.

Example: You may have kid’s movies on your server that you may not personally watch but its there for those that do. It’s simple….Just don’t use it.

Really, you don’t know how to use a setting to turn if off?

Well, bye,..

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Looks like he does Notknow, Plex can be challenging for some.

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Thanks for calling this out. It was originally designed that way, as it was a single view with tabs, but we agree that moving between shows and seasons without going back to the show felt unnatural. The newest preview version has an update that improves this: if you enter a season from a show, backing out now returns you to the show level before going all the way back to the screen you originally came from (such as the full library).

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Excellent. Odd that it was changed from this behaviour, which every device I’ve used has had, in the first place.

Any chance of fixing the missing Season Number for Live TV Plex Channels?

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To add more detail to this, there is a lot more unseen/background changes with how the New Experience apps are communicating back to our media providers which is why you were not seeing this on the previous legacy versions on Roku. This internal issue is still active but is a bit complex and will need some additional time to work through. I’ve given it another bump. Thanks for the reminder :plexheart:.

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4 posts were merged into an existing topic: Unable To Favorite Libraries in New UI

That would be most appreciated, thank you.

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With the libraries listed at the top of the screen, do you have to scroll all the way up to the top just to switch libraries??

I use the Back Key

Navigational Suggestion:

Top Level Current - I move to Libraries. I mouse over any item and the subdirectory displays. When I click right, I am taken to the top level of the subdirectory which is “Recommended.” The same functionality I could get if I’d just clicked on the library item itself. Because of this, most every time I roll into the subdirectory, I want to Browse.

Top Level Suggestion - Have the subdirectory float and align with the library, and make Browse always be the first available selection when clicking right. Since I can already get to Recommended by selecting the Library directly, it would be helpful to not have the extra click to bypass Recommended to get to Browse.

Not married to this idea… but I do find it a bit annoying that the further down I am in the libraries, when I click right the highlight bounces way up top.

Thinking about this further… since some may not know they can click on the library directly… maybe don’t have the subdirectory show immediately. Since you have to click right to get to it anyway, maybe a tiny arrow next to the library showing that this is an option. Might help for someone in there for the first time to realize I can just click the thing I’m on instead of needing to go to the right to get to the same thing.

Increasing Frustration:

Last night I found myself in want to watch a movie. I made my way into browsing the movie library well enough and set some filters so I could start browsing. Found a movie, watched it. All good.

When I’d finished the movie, I decided maybe I want to watch another, and here is where I started getting a bit angry with navigation. Primary navigation is at the top top. Filters for a library are near enough to the top as to get a bit muddled in the up down clicks. If you’ve ever set filters, you know that the settings you choose are persistent. I’m good with that, however I tend to get fast fingered when I’m trying to roll through what I want to do.

So, I can’t specifically point to a particular part of the Top Nav that added to my mounting frustration level. The series of up, down, left, right acrobatics I had to pull off to make my media consumption desire a success was a bit off the scale. Repeatedly I found myself bouncing back and forth between up down, never really landing where I intended to land, with a few errant button presses taking me back home. I am not a TV remote thrower… but I nearly was last night.

Initially, I welcomed that little horizontal flyout menu that they added, but I am now finding that it’s increasingly getting in the way of my being able to get to where I want to go with any speed.

Sure… I’m using it wrong. It just feels like such a jumbled mess up top, now. Life was way better when it was just up down over to the left, out of the way of everything else. I never fumbled through those menus because they were tucked out of the way of the main interface.

I will fully admit that I was in a Stag Beer fog while I was attempting to do this, which I’m sure didn’t help. Plex… it’s not nearly as intuitive as you think it is. It might be for a brainiac, but for your average beer slugger… it’s just… too much.

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Who hasn’t? :+1:

Now, try with Guinness. Same result :beer_mug:

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I’m using the new Roku version for the first time, and this is just incredible… It’s like nothing works the way you would expect it.

Why do you need open a submenu to view a library? The “Libraries” tab doesn’t actually contain your libraries. It contains just a single library at a time, and you have to navigate to the top menu to switch to a different one.

If you move the cursor on the top menu bar from Home or Libraries over to search, and then press the Down button button to go back to your current screen, it instead opens the search menu.

If you move the cursor on the top bar to the Profile icon, then scroll down to press one of the icons located directly below the Profile icon, it instead moves the cursor over to the main Profile screen.

And with the extra menu at the top of the screen, and the larger background image view, you can only view a single row of items at a time.

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Exactly! Why is navigation so abstract now? And why does Plex act like it’s an improvement or try to ask us why we like the old navigation better?

The old navigation makes obvious intuitive human sense. And I feel gaslit every time someone like @Chattykinson comes along asking why we like the previous UI/UX as if it’s not already obvious.

Sorry, @Chattykinson - I’m sure you’re doing the job you’re paid to do, but that doesn’t help return the Plex I used to love.

I like the old navigation for the same reason I don’t like to be stuck behind a semi truck on the freeway. I want to see what’s ahead of me. And the new UI makes me feel like I’m stuck in rush hour behind a semi truck. That is the perfect metaphor for it.

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scrambling the UI around to make it feel like you’re adding value (you’re not) so you can charge more and remove beloved features like watch together. cool. im so glad im wrapped up in this stupid ecosystem. i love that the cory doctrow term is applying heavily to a product i used to love and have been a big fan of and recommended to family and friends for years.

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I had a super long winded response here. But I’m repeating myself at this point.

It was great the way it was.

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It was familiar. I actually was frustrated with some of the left hand navigation because I’d just be trying to get back to the top of Home Screen after digging through rows on Home Screen and it’d jump to the left side if I clicked one too many times over and the lag threw it off and suddenly I’m in my library screens because it auto loaded….

Not saying the new way is ideal - and for some folks setups it’s more impactful than others - but I think it was more familiar and folks were used to it than it was “great”.

On my older Roku devices and my Roku TVs the newer version runs snappier. Jumping through a large library with lots of rows loading artwork is much faster now and that’s a noticeable functional improvement for me. Is the new Roku app “great” … no. I still want the clock back on all the screens (why is that so hard?) and like you said the filtering and library navigation is weirdly awkward.

I think this is part of it for some folks… it might be good for some folks to just step back a bit because sometimes chugging along on it just kinda keeps it “up-front” and you end up staying upset about it long past when you might’ve put it down. Not that you’re doing that yourself just that your sentiment made me think about how ranting sometimes keeps those feelings active longer than maybe they deserve. I know I can get caught up in it - I certainly type up a lot of stuff around here and look at how much I talk about that clock missing! - and sometimes putting it down for a bit and coming back to it later can help. :slight_smile:

I have little to no functional complaints about the new version. I’d be happier than me on Christmas morning with a wrapped case of Stag Beer if they did everything they did, but put the left menu back. It is my single largest point of frustration.

I have gone beyond upset and entered into despondency.

I tried. I really tried to like this update. When I “come back” and sit down any given weekend, I get so PO’d at trying to get around that it takes away from the experience of watching things.

Sure… I’ll admit that most of that comes from remembering what we had. I miss everything in the order I wanted it to be. I miss Live TV being in the middle of my Libraries because that’s where I wanted it to be. I miss EVERYTHING being where I wanted it to be.

Now I have three columns of things that I can organize, and a flyout menu (which I initially thought was a good idea) just adding to the increasing feel of having to click around to get to places that used to be easy to get to.

Our opinions differ. I do not like this direction.

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