That’s not how it works.
You can’t call these the ‘proposed’ settings. These are, for all intents and purposes, the actual default settings. If you skip or press enter without changing anything, these become the settings, therefore they are the default settings.
Calling them ‘proposed’ etc. is tantamount to gaslighting people into believing they are not the default. If you want to propose, propose it in a text above the settings which should be all set to ‘private’, and let users read your proposal and decide whether they want to change the settings.
In that case there should be an option to “Skip” so that it leaves the settings unchanged (and hopefully disabled or private). Instead it’s just “Finish”, forcing you to make changes to the options on the page and no obvious way to ignore or exit this modal.
I was not assuming that this dialog represents the settings as they currently exist; I’m suggesting that it should have done so.
If the default choices change the status quo of the user’s current environment, then the user must actively change the settings in order to not participate in the new feature. That is the definition of “opt-out.”
i would think that with the very loud and what feels like 100% negative feedback from the community they would think about this one more time, and make it opt-in.
i have a plex pass, but i would like to pay each year a license if it gets them to actually use the dev resources on improving the plex media server rather then trying to find new functions to try to ramp up the user base.
No, not even technically. If the default options presented for the settings enable the feature, then the user must actively change the options in order to not participate. That is the definition of “opt-out.”
Hate to say it, but since Plex wont own up to their mistake, I hope the GDPR legal penalties make them rethink this sort of privacy breach in the future.
I agree! Id even be happy to pay a monthly Plex Pass Advanced subscription where requested features that people ACTUALLY want actually get implemented. What has been done this month seems to be a really sneaky way to inch towards monetizing private data that should never have been done. Plex employee posts trying to justify this blatant disregard for user privacy remind me of a slimy used car salesman, honestly. Its NOT a good look, Plex.
But why ? I did not ask them to be friends within plex. Plex assumed that as I shared something previously with them, giving them media access, that its okay to auto sign them up as friends within their social context. I do not want anyone to see this profile.
I only hope eventually I can actually delete my plex profile, leaving my account in place. I never agreed to having a profile.
I think you’re using a different mental model for “account” vs. “profile” than Plex is. I’m not saying yours is wrong, but I think it’s going to frustrate you.
Accounts have been (optionally) searchable, for Library access sharing, for a long time.
I think it’s mildly strange that there’s only one type of “Friend”. I would happily share my activity with some of my friends, but not with others.
Well, thanks to you, I found out I actually had a profile and that friends watchlist items were showing in my profile !
I’ve been using Plex for more than 10 years and never knew about the Profile. Clearly my fault I was not aware of it.
So now I have to walk my friends (which include elderly relatives in other countries) how to remove items from their watchlist/profile and make changes/updates to Discover and email privacy settings.
Plex, why make this all so difficult. It is my data, it is my hardware, they are my friends.
Keep your eyes and fingers out of my crap please.
If you need something to do here is a short list
Fix playback on ATV
Provide x265 transcoding
Fix download on iOS
Provide an offline mode for all clients
Fix HW support for AMD GPUs
Imagine asking an intentionally pointed and leading question on a hot button issue and then pretending to be shocked when other people take the time to point out how dumb the question was.
I believe your profile was created recently without explicit consent or notice, making this not your fault.
Although any company that can try claiming the existing dialog is “opt-in” will probably be just as slimy about the profile.
btw, in addition to definitely being opt-out, the existing onboard screens are not direct about explaining that “you should know your existing streaming access accounts have now been converted to Friends in the social media sense” and “you now have a new profile with important settings that is completely separate from your Plex App settings and your account settings.”
Can someone please point me to any of these online articles, comment sections, posts here or on Reddit, or anywhere else really, that refer to this as an “opt in” feature?
The only people continually repeating that seem to be the Plex CEO and the people with his name on their paychecks
Instead of admitting that you may have made a misstep you are trying to explain to the internet that we all just have “misconceptions” and are “confused” about this
I’m not so sure the most professional way to deal with this was to tell your customers that they’re just a bunch of idiots who can’t understand
Can someone please point me to any of these online articles, comment sections, posts here or on Reddit, or anywhere else really, that refer to this as an “opt in” feature?
This thread was created in response to the Plex message which explains that it is “Opt In”:
Discover Together is Opt In
Click the link in Beckfield’s initial post for their statement.
Sure and it is very frustrating. Plex have create a social media profile for me, without my consent or approval and even worse than that assigned friends to it based on their criteria and other activity I done with my account.
The whole discover thing is a mess. If plex are not careful it could be the beginning of the end for them. I do hope its not as while I’m extremely vocal and annoyed on all this I still love many aspects of the overall plex platform.
