Recording from dualHD weather not it be TV Show or Movie record you can’t put them on under one Libraries
If look at my photo there are two recording one for movie and one for tv show that only way it works when pick something from list you can’t group then as one Library the rec scheduler will let do any other way
Yes of course as that’s by design and done on purpose.
TV Shows are 3 layers deep (Show Name, Season, Episode #) where a movie is just simple it’s Name. They require different structure to represent them properly in a menu system.
I do understand however what you’re asking for which is just a “flat” representation of all things records so in the case of the show you could just combine those 3 elements to become the name.
IMHO, I doubt you will ever see this come to Plex land.
Just a reminder,…
While there is no ETA for the Plex full guide grid EPG it was stated that it could happen “before the end of the year” and it’s already December 1st. That isn’t a guarantee buy any means but we were given every indication that it could be soon.
@cayars said:
Yes of course as that’s by design and done on purpose.
TV Shows are 3 layers deep (Show Name, Season, Episode #) where a movie is just simply it’s Name. They require different structure to represent them properly in a menu system.I do understand however what you’re asking for which is just a “flat” representation of all things records so in the case of the show you could just combine those 3 elements to become the name.
IMHO, I doubt you will ever see this come to Plex land.
Then all just add more reason for Plex to fail and Emby to succeed as they listen to us user
I’d disagree with that as a whole. Sure there could be some user some place that for him this would be a make it or break it feature but FLAT libraries aren’t that popular or asked for much at all here. Personally I can’t think of reason to do that with recordings. I’d rather see my latest movies and latest shows in separate hubs and libraries.
Actually I find the Emby way of doing this could cause people to switch to Plex. In Emby all your recordings are lumped into a Flat Recording library instead of directly into your Movies or TV Show library.
It’s rather unintuitive to watch season 10 (ripped) of The Big Bang Theory in the TV Shows library but then have to know to look for the current season 11 in Recordings because that’s where the Recorder put them.
Also Emby can do cool things like only record missing episodes from TV Shows you already have to fill in missing blanks. With Plex if I go to The Big Bang Theory I can see my ripped and recorded content all in one place as I’d expect it to be.
I of course can keep these in separate locations on disc to track what’s a rip and what’s recorded.
The DVR in Emby is very basic compared to what is already in Plex and we know there is more to come.
Seems like we’re due for a status update on this feature? Maybe? Fingers crossed…
Keep in mind LiveTV is in beta to help work out bugs in it. It’s also only available right now in a few clients for testing.
The new EPG grid will make it into the full Plex ecosystem as promised before to long.
@jrcorwin I think you may be confusing LiveTV and DVR. DVR has been out a lot longer but LiveTV has only been recently released and it is in fact only available on a few clients.
While I agree the EPG Grid is absolutely needed for LiveTV use it’s not so important for recordings. The present EPG style lends itself well to finding Movies, Shows & Sports and makes it rather simple to setup series recordings on the latter two.
Enter LiveTV with Full time shifting which are currently being added to clients and the need for the EPG Grid becomes a whole lot more important for daily use. Example, if you want to tune to a specific channel to watch the news it can be difficult to do in some clients with the current EPG system but with a channel grid view it becomes second nature and easy.
But what I was referring to is the LIVE TV portion of this being new and in BETA. Right now it’s important to help test it and report things not working correctly. This way when the grid view hits/rolls out we’ll have a really nice system that makes it easy to use.
Make better sense?
Carlo
@kinoCharlino With the new dvr improvements will there be also a possibility to rename channels to a more friendly name? In german EPG providers, channels are named very cryptic.
@daeks said:
@kinoCharlino With the new dvr improvements will there be also a possibility to rename channels to a more friendly name? In german EPG providers, channels are named very cryptic.
Thanks for the suggestion! We have this one in our internal issue tracker already and is in the list of feature suggestions being considered for DVR.
@cayars said:
The present EPG style lends itself well to finding Movies, Shows & Sports and makes it rather simple to setup series recordings on the latter two.
Carlo
Carlo, I’m not sure what “lends itself well” to these functions. Right now you basically have to search for everything unless it just happens to pop up in the “playing now” section.
The thing is that virtually every solution that I’ve seen (no, I haven’t tried them all) has a search feature IN ADDITION TO the standard grid. These things are not mutually exclusive.
I’m not bitching because I’m getting my DVR stuff done, but this has to happen for any practical, cord-cutting functionality.
Also, this was addressed here: http://forums.plex.tv/discussion/298470/
Sorry, I think you took what I said wrong. Say for example you just want to see a list of Movies that will be aired in the next week or so. Plex makes this very easy to find.
Same with TV Shows. Very easy to see a list of Shows that will be airing in the next week or so or even all shows you have in your library already (cool feature)
It can be crazy hard to find out what specific show is on what specific channel however. Sometimes you need to know this information and this drives me crazy. Say for example there is a sporting event on like an NFL game. You want to record the TV show/movie on right after the sporting event. In order to make sure you get the whole thing you might need to record 2 different shows that are on immediately after the NFL game due to length over runs. No easy way to find them. Since it’s not in a Grid format you might not even know it’s on after a sporting event either. This is a fringe example of course.
I myself watch a lot of CNN, Fox News and sometimes MSNBC (I’m a news junky). With Plex currently you either need to know where that item will appear in WATCH NOW or you need to know the name of the show that will be on at that time slot in order to tune to that channel in Live TV on some clients since there are no channel numbers or Grid. I find this frustrating beyond belief. To make matters worse these two stations are right next to each other and with a set top box I could just channel up or down or punch in the channel number. Needless to say for me switching channels is a royal pain in the @ss.
The above is well known and is going to be addressed along with the Grid EPG update coming this year so until we get that I just have to deal with it if I want to use Plex for Live TV.
So don’t get me wrong, there is a lot of improvement needed that the Grid EPG will fix/help with but that doesn’t take away from what I said about it being easy to find TV Shows or Movies that will be on that week. So it’s not so bad for DVR but very difficult for Live TV if that makes better sense.
But yea, I think we are both on the same page in that we desperately need both types of views and some features simplified (channel up/down) for easy channel surfing.
Carlo
@cayars said:
Sorry, I think you took what I said wrong. Say for example you just want to see a list of Movies that will be aired in the next week or so. Plex makes this very easy to find.Same with TV Shows. Very easy to see a list of Shows that will be airing in the next week or so or even all shows you have in your library already (cool feature)
It can be crazy hard to find out what specific show is on what specific channel however. Sometimes you need to know this information and this drives me crazy. Say for example there is a sporting event on like an NFL game. You want to record the TV show/movie on right after the sporting event. In order to make sure you get the whole thing you might need to record 2 different shows that are on immediately after the NFL game due to length over runs. No easy way to find them. Since it’s not in a Grid format you might not even know it’s on after a sporting event either. This is a fringe example of course.
I myself watch a lot of CNN, Fox News and sometimes MSNBC (I’m a news junky). With Plex currently you either need to know where that item will appear in WATCH NOW or you need to know the name of the show that will be on at that time slot in order to tune to that channel in Live TV on some clients since there are no channel numbers or Grid. I find this frustrating beyond belief. To make matters worse these two stations are right next to each other and with a set top box I could just channel up or down or punch in the channel number. Needless to say for me switching channels is a royal pain in the @ss.
The above is well known and is going to be addressed along with the Grid EPG update coming this year so until we get that I just have to deal with it if I want to use Plex for Live TV.
So don’t get me wrong, there is a lot of improvement needed that the Grid EPG will fix/help with but that doesn’t take away from what I said about it being easy to find TV Shows or Movies that will be on that week. So it’s not so bad for DVR but very difficult for Live TV if that makes better sense.
But yea, I think we are both on the same page in that we desperately need both types of views and some features simplified (channel up/down) for easy channel surfing.
Carlo
Yes, I think we are on the same page.
I hope they don’t view these features as “either/or” though. You could have the grid EPG but also allow the type of browsing they currently have. Maybe even settings to choose which views you show or even create custom views.
Well we are now in February and March is the end of Q1 so at least the end of the ETA isn’t too far off. If the ETA moves that would be unfortunate.
I tend not to use Plex for Live TV rather I use it for recording and viewing later. Most of the time I have no issues finding the programming I want. However, as described by others here, there are some situations where there are noteworthy difficulties that simply wouldn’t exist if there were a traditional guide.
@Octavean said:
Well we are now in February and March is the end of Q1 so at least the end of the ETA isn’t too far off. If the ETA moves that would be unfortunate.I tend not to use Plex for Live TV rather I use it for recording and viewing later. Most of the time I have no issues finding the programming I want. However, as described by others here, there are some situations where there are noteworthy difficulties that simply wouldn’t exist if there were a traditional guide.
I have giving up on asking for such simple features, Let see
1: Still no EPG Grid View
2: Still no Libraries with the following directories like this
Movies (Rips DVD and Blu-ray rips only)
TV Shows (Series or Episode form Rips DVD and Blu-ray rips only)
Music (Rips CD or DVD Audio)
Music Video (You know like MTV and VH1 Music Video)
Photo (From Phone, Tablet, Camera and so on)
TV Recordings (This cover both TV Show and Movie record under one library from Digital Television Tuner or Analogue Capture device)
Home Movies or Other Video (From Phone, Tablet or Camcorder)
3: Still no Analogue Device Capture support
4: Still no Individual User Account (Being able to create individual users with their own logins, watch history and so on)
5: Still no Themes add-on support
6: Not very customize able
Ho but they got time mess around with Stupid VR and Alexa Voice Control in stead of address the server first
@shspvr said:
I have giving up on asking for such simple features, Let see
2: Still no Libraries with the following directories like this
Movies (Rips DVD and Blu-ray rips only)
TV Shows (Series or Episode form Rips DVD and Blu-ray rips only)
Music (Rips CD or DVD Audio)
Music Video (You know like MTV and VH1 Music Video)
Photo (From Phone, Tablet, Camera and so on)
TV Recordings (This cover both TV Show and Movie record under one library from Digital Television Tuner or Analogue Capture device)
Home Movies or Other Video (From Phone, Tablet or Camcorder)
Can you explain this more? I don’t understand what you mean?
I like your suggestion of music videos! I think there is even on online “CDDB type” service for cataloging them, but I too am addicted to music videos. I’d love to have a “Library” for them and play them like my other media!
@KaraokeAmerica said:
@shspvr said:
I have giving up on asking for such simple features, Let see
2: Still no Libraries with the following directories like this
Movies (Rips DVD and Blu-ray rips only)
TV Shows (Series or Episode form Rips DVD and Blu-ray rips only)
Music (Rips CD or DVD Audio)
Music Video (You know like MTV and VH1 Music Video)
Photo (From Phone, Tablet, Camera and so on)
TV Recordings (This cover both TV Show and Movie record under one library from Digital Television Tuner or Analogue Capture device)
Home Movies or Other Video (From Phone, Tablet or Camcorder)Can you explain this more? I don’t understand what you mean?
I like your suggestion of music videos! I think there is even on online “CDDB type” service for cataloging them, but I too am addicted to music videos. I’d love to have a “Library” for them and play them like my other media!
It has to do with this
@shspvr said:
@Octavean said:
Well we are now in February and March is the end of Q1 so at least the end of the ETA isn’t too far off. If the ETA moves that would be unfortunate.I tend not to use Plex for Live TV rather I use it for recording and viewing later. Most of the time I have no issues finding the programming I want. However, as described by others here, there are some situations where there are noteworthy difficulties that simply wouldn’t exist if there were a traditional guide.
I have giving up on asking for such simple features, Let see
1: Still no EPG Grid View
Will be available in the future.
2: Still no Libraries with the following directories like this
Movies (Rips DVD and Blu-ray rips only)
TV Shows (Series or Episode form Rips DVD and Blu-ray rips only)
Music (Rips CD or DVD Audio)
Music Video (You know like MTV and VH1 Music Video)
Photo (From Phone, Tablet, Camera and so on)
TV Recordings (This cover both TV Show and Movie record under one library from Digital Television Tuner or Analogue Capture device)
You can already do this with the present system. Just create separate areas on your disc(s) for each of these. Then add each section to the Movie or TV libraries. I do this myself to keep track of the source files exactly for the reason you mention.
Home Movies or Other Video (From Phone, Tablet or Camcorder)
Again you can setup your disc to handle this just as you can above.
3: Still no Analogue Device Capture support
Plex doesn’t support analog capture devices. Plex supports TUNERS.
4: Still no Individual User Account (Being able to create individual users with their own logins, watch history and so on)
Plex has supported this for quite a while. You can have managed users or Home users depending on your needs. In any case each person gets their own logins, watched history, playlists etc. What you’re asking for is already in Plex.
Ho but they got time mess around with Stupid VR and Alexa Voice Control in stead of address the server first
Yep as I don’t think anyone wants Plex to become static but wants it to keep evolving. YOU may not want particular features but others will.
“Hey Alexa play Top Gun”
“Hey Google tune to CNN” or “Hey Google put on Fox News”
These type of voice commands will make using Plex much easier for many people. It takes time to build this type of functionality into the software but once it hits a certain point will be very powerful and many people will wonder how they used Plex before it. Of course we aren’t there yet but it’s important to stay working on features like this.
Carlo
@cayars said:
@shspvr said:
@Octavean said:
Well we are now in February and March is the end of Q1 so at least the end of the ETA isn’t too far off. If the ETA moves that would be unfortunate.I tend not to use Plex for Live TV rather I use it for recording and viewing later. Most of the time I have no issues finding the programming I want. However, as described by others here, there are some situations where there are noteworthy difficulties that simply wouldn’t exist if there were a traditional guide.
I have giving up on asking for such simple features, Let see
1: Still no EPG Grid View
Will be available in the future.2: Still no Libraries with the following directories like this
Movies (Rips DVD and Blu-ray rips only)
TV Shows (Series or Episode form Rips DVD and Blu-ray rips only)
Music (Rips CD or DVD Audio)
Music Video (You know like MTV and VH1 Music Video)
Photo (From Phone, Tablet, Camera and so on)
TV Recordings (This cover both TV Show and Movie record under one library from Digital Television Tuner or Analogue Capture device)
You can already do this with the present system. Just create separate areas on your disc(s) for each of these. Then add each section to the Movie or TV libraries. I do this myself to keep track of the source files exactly for the reason you mention.Home Movies or Other Video (From Phone, Tablet or Camcorder)
Again you can setup your disc to handle this just as you can above
Hmmm once again you don’t get it that just list a of option for the Libraries
I don’t want TV Recording as separate TV and Movie areas
3: Still no Analogue Device Capture support
Plex doesn’t support analog capture devices. Plex supports TUNERS.4: Still no Individual User Account (Being able to create individual users with their own logins, watch history and so on)
Plex has supported this for quite a while. You can have managed users or Home users depending on your needs. In any case each person gets their own logins, watched history, playlists etc. What you’re asking for is already in Plex.
Not as a Local User Account you can’t
Ho but they got time mess around with Stupid VR and Alexa Voice Control in stead of address the server first
Yep as I don’t think anyone wants Plex to become static but wants it to keep evolving. YOU may not want particular features but others will. “Hey Alexa play Top Gun” can be very cool to have in your living room.
Carlo
@shspvr said:
Hmmm once again you don’t get it that just list a of option for the Libraries
I don’t want TV Recording as separate TV and Movie areas
You can have different libraries for each if you wish OR you can add multiple directories to scan to one library.
In either case you can preverse the layout you wish to have on disc while having everything in organize library(s) in Plex. This goes for DVR as well. If for example you have 3 directories making up your Movies library (DVR, BluRay, Recordings) when you go to record a movies you can choose where to save the recording so you choose the library path on disc pointing to the Recordings directory.
This allows me to have 1 unified MOVIES library in Plex but have separate source paths on disc. Looking at my disc paths I can easily see what I have on DVD that I might want to update to BR given the chance or what I’ve recorded that I might want to replace with DVR or BR to get rid of channel logos and whatnot.
This is exactly what you are asking for unless I don’'t understand what you are saying.
Not as a Local User Account you can’t
What do you mean? I have 5 users in my Home. When I start Plex on my devices it asks me to login to one of those accounts. These users are part of my HOME and are LOCAL users.
What are you asking for that isn’t part of the HOME feature set you have access to as a Plex Pass member?
Carlo
