End of first recording joined to beginning of second recording

Server Version#: Synology 1.25.4.5468
Player Version#: MaCOS 1.40.1.2823-6f60f3a7
Tuner Make/Model: Hauppage Quad
Guide/Lineup name: ?
Using XMLTV?: ?
Channel number/Name: 5 USA

Hi,

I have to set my DVR to record +5mins else the recordings for some episodes get cut short.

Unfortunately, for recordings directly after one another on the same channel, this results in the beginning of the next episode to include the last 0-5 minutes of the first recorded episode.

It’s only a few episodes and can easily join/edit the ts files later but does anyone have any suggestions to automagically do this?

Guess one ‘fix’ may be to tell Plex to use a different tuner to record subsequent episodes if they are directly after one another on the same channel… is this possible at all?

Cheers!
Matt

I’m not sure I understand your question 100% but I think you are asking if there is a way to extent one recording by est. 5 minutes and also delay the next recording by est. 5 minutes on the same channel. If this is in fact your question, I believe you can delay the next recording by changing “Minutes before Start” to -5 (negative 5) in the advanced recording options.

cheers, that’s an idea :).

I think a better way of wording it would be as follows - what would happen in the following scenario, where two recordings overlap.

Recording 1 : 09:00-10:05, Channel 56
Recording 2 : 10:00-11:05, Channel 56

Im assuming that even though the recordings are on the same channel, the Plex dvr would use x2 tuners as the timings overlap, therefore ensuring all of both recordings are recorded

I’m probably over-thinking the whole thing and need to do more testing before I set it and forget it :slight_smile:

Great question. In my experience, Plex actually only uses one turner to record the full amount of time for the recordings (Recording 1 + 2) then separates them appropriately when saving them to the specific media folder location.

Cheers!

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bullseye! I bet that is what is happening.

So when it’s splitting them, its taking into the account the first recording and adding the end ‘time’ of the first recording, i.e. 10:05 in my scenario.

This is resulting in end/beginning of different recordings ended up at the end/beginning of other recordings depending on where they ‘overlap’.

Suppose this is just a feature rather than an issue.

Guessing a feature request could be to specify which tuners are used for which episodes … but I may not be fully understanding how it works myself yet!

cheers :slight_smile:

Just to satisfy my curiosity, why would you want to use a different turner?

I believe using 1 tuner, won’t let you record past 5 minutes of one program while also starting the other program on time on the same channel.

Channel 1000
Program 1 - 10:00 - 10:35
Program 2 - 10:30 - 11:00

I believe Program 2 wouldn’t get fully recorded if using only 1 tuner.

EDIT: I see your reply above that contradicts what I thought happened.

Actually I am curious about this. Are there any threads that go over this? I could test it myself, but if someone already has that could save me some time.

Yes. I’m almost 100% sure I did this when recording college football on ABC because the game would often last longer than the allocated schedule time.

Edit: I just ran a test. Plex only used one turner but broke the full recording time into two different recordings, one that went 5 minutes over the 30 minute mark ( 2:00 pm - 2:35 pm) and one that started on time ( 2:30 pm - 3:00 pm).

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Just am testing this too. And with an DVR overlap on the same channel it is using two tuner slots on my HD HomeRun Primes.

That’s really interesting. I’m using an HD HomeRun Flex

Hmm. I have 3 HDHomerun Primes and 2 of them had the same exact channel being used out of their 3 available slots.

Sorry for slow reply, UK time zone here :slight_smile:

I’ve had some episodes record overnight, will check how they turn out and report back.

@nwsurfer - reason for different tuner is purely so two recordings next to each other are separated at birth and don’t require the approximate separation done post record by Plex.

Cheers!

just completed some testing, the first recording did take the +5 minute padding, and Plex split the recording.
Unfortunately it seems some frames are lost during the split - i.e. rejoining the two episodes (using Videmux on macOS) results in a jump of a few seconds at the join point.

Any ideas?

I guess I should go back to 0 pre/post padding and potentially miss some of the intro/outro.

@matteo360 that’s interesting. I have no idea why it would jump frames at the split point. I’m sorry.

No worries, definitely an interesting finding :slight_smile:
Cheers for quick replies and suggestions.

Saw a post about timeserver settings so have resynced that and set all padding back to 0.

Fingers crossed :slight_smile:

Cheers,
Matt

Good luck!

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Is the time off on your PC or cable system? Otherwise why are you missing the beginning or end of the content?

Hi - good shout - I read about the NTP servers possibly being out by a few seceonds/mins so have resync’d the Synology NAS time.
Im running off a Hauppage Quatro from a UK terrestrial arial, I think sometimes recordings can just start early/finish late as broadcasters see fit.
Willing to try any suggestions before giving up though :slight_smile:

Cheers

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