[Feature Request] Configuring External Player like MPC or VLC for PMP on Windows

It would be great if it has this feature like Emby does. It’s become the situation where I’ve primarily used Emby for higher quality shows and movies, and Plex for things I don’t really pay attention to. The only reason I would spend the effort to use Plex is because it has a nicer/better UI for me to navigate with.

I like the UI of Plex, just not the video player. Emby Theater’s UI isn’t very good, but at least it has external player to improve my actual viewing experience. Please Plex, add this very simple feature to PMP…

EDIT: One alternative to use in the interim is to use Kodi with the official Plex add-on. Then you have to follow https://kodi.wiki/view/External_players to add external player support. This is a minor solution, but it doesn’t solve the fact that all the features in Plex Media Player are not available in Kodi with Plex. So I’m basically forced to have yet another app installed to get what I want, and swap back between the two to manage my libraries.

Here’s an image with Emby using MPC:

Here’s the scene but with Plex’s player:

It should be fairly obvious that the edges are fuzzy; perhaps the video codec can’t decode pixels very well? It would be great if Plex can fix this issue, or just add in external player usage for Plex Media Player.

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On Windows you do have a third-party app for that:

However, I wouldn’t say that this is priority, but I’ve always dreamt of being able to use whatever local player to open media stored in remote servers.

I’m already aware, but as you’ve stated it isn’t built into the official Plex Media Player app. It would be better if this was just built into PMP, like it is for their competitor, Emby. I don’t like using my browser for watching media vs a dedicated app.

Having official support for it also ensures that future changes won’t break the ability of playing via an external player.

As of now I’ve personally stopped using PMP altogether because of this one little feature. I still run the server for family members, but that’s it. In the past I recommended my friends to use Plex, but now I wouldn’t bother. To me, Plex will always be inferior to Emby so long as Emby supports external players and it doesn’t. One of my friends hasn’t bought into Plex (Plex Pass) solely because of feature as well.

It sounds as if you are mixing up the Plex ‘web app’ with ‘Plex Media Player’.
These are two totally different things (even though PMP’s ‘desktop mode’ looks just like the web app).

The ‘web app’ app.plex.tv runs indeed in a web browser, which is not the best environment for a media player and imposes severe restrictions on what can be supported in terms of features and codecs.

The real ‘Plex Media Player’ (separate, free download below) however, is using mpv as its media engine, and has therefore much greater abilities.
Among these are:

  • decoding surround sound,
  • bitstreaming surround sound to external decoders,
  • support for HEVC video
  • playing all major types of subtitles directly,
  • supporting refresh rate switching
  • a quite extensive configurability (though not exposed via the PMP user interface)

I’m not mixing the two up.

I want to use the “real ‘Plex Media Player’” to play videos via Media Player Classic or VLC instead of whatever it uses by default (which, according to you, is mpv).

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I do share your concerns, but for me, because my PMS is hosted on a remote server anyway, I don’t think this function can be achieved under Plex’s current architecture even with official support. I have generally only use Plex for media browsing and mobile platforms, and on a PC whenever I value quality over convenience, I go through file explorer the old unsexy way.

As regard to switching to Emby, I’ve made several attempts in the past months, but neither of the two products satisfy some of the niche requirements and arguably never will satisfy them all, so my workflow depends on a lot of third-party agents and apps exclusive to Plex simply because Plex still has a much bigger user base. This is why I suggest you to not wait for either of the two teams to implement a feature important to you and grab whatever third-party solution available.

I host my Plex and Emby server on the same network, but on a different box, and it works fairly well. On Kodi (with Plex) and Emby, it treats the files almost as if it was on my own file system, except that I don’t need to worry about my own desktop running low on disk space as my dedicated home server has way more disk space, etc. Additionally, as you’ve mentioned, it’s nicer when there’s an agent to match my media to the appropriate library + keeps track of my progress.

User base shouldn’t be the end reason for why you should choose one product over the other. If there’s something one product supports that is a deal breaker, you should choose that product (regardless on if its Plex, Emby, Jellyfin, etc). Emby’s matcher, for example, is miles behind Plex’s. Which means you have to, generally, manually match a TV/Movie/etc, while Plex generally can correctly match it for you. If you cared about that feature more than all else, then obviously stick with what you like. For me, the deal breaking feature is External Media Players.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I am already aware of it. Here’s what I’ll list:

The in-browser solution requires you install an additional software to open your file on your OWN computer, and not from one on your own network. Which, if you wanted to do that, you have to download even more tools to get it working. Completely unnecessary, and adds bloats to your computer. Moreover if there’s a breaking change on the Plex UI, the script will break (as it has recently).

The Kodi solution works, but the problem is that you have to use Kodi. Kodi, frankly, is much less Desktop-friendly than PMP and Emby Theater. Moreover, I don’t get as much control over my Plex’s settings, and can’t match things, etc. Which is also unacceptable.

So the whole point of this thread is to try to make this feature something that the Plex team will work on, and while workarounds are accepted, it should be noted that workarounds tend to encourage people to not need to work on a feature.

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this would be awesome!!!

I lost so much time by trying to make 4k Atmos (with subtitle) work on PLEX without success… each time I want to watch a 4k movie, I prefer to launch it in VLC because I’m sure it’ll not stutter.

I would love to use MadVR with Plex and still have the full feature set of Plex that Plex Media Player gives, so bumping.

Bumping - I still have not switched back from Emby SOLELY for this reason. I do consider Plex a better app, but use Emby ONLY because it supports external players.

Why not just use higher quality settings in your mpv.conf for plex desktop?

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would be a good start

A good start would be if they had madVR rendering instead of having their userbase modify a file with random values to try and get the same experience as they would with an external player.

A good start would be to update https://support.plex.tv/articles/207338798-advanced-configuration/ as the windows path is also wrong / not working with their latest PMP.

But most of all, a good start would be for the Plex devs to add the suggested feature so that users won’t need to go through hoops in order to get the same effect as they would using Emby + an external player. It’s ridiculous to expect their userbase to try to play with random settings/values on the mpv.conf to ‘get the right setting’.

I haven’t used this in Emby. Is it an internal setting in Emby that tells it to always use a third party player with a path to the preferred option? Or is it like an “open with” menu item to temporarily launch through a third party player?

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