Getting 3D (Blu-ray 3D-MVC) To Work On Plex

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#1

True 3D from Blu-ray 3D does work on Plex, but it depends on what device your Plex app is on. I will explain in detail below...

SUCCESS! After numerous attempts, I finally got Blu-ray 3D rips to work through Plex. In order to watch these 3D versions, you will obviously need a 3DTV with 3D glasses, but also a compatible Plex app. I say "compatible," because not all Plex apps are the same. The LG and Apple TV Plex apps apparently doesn't support real 3D (they can be converted to "fake 3D" using the TVs 3D button on your remote control, but it has much less dimension and depth accuracy is often horrendous), however I have found Samsung Plex apps selects real 3D (aka. 3D-MVC). The good news is, if you don't have 3DTVs, glasses, or a compatible Plex app, you can still watch the normal "flat" 2D version from the same file. So, you will always be able to watch these movies, but you will only be able to see the 3D effects with the right setup, including the right Plex app. This eliminates the need for two files of the same movie (one file for 2D viewing, another file for 3D viewing).

Instructions are as follows...

  1. Use "MakeMKV" to rip the Blu-ray 3D (be sure to checkmark the 3D-MVC codec file too).
  2. Use "tsMuxeR" to remux the .MKV file to an .M2TS file.
  3. Add the .M2TS file to Plex.
  4. Watch 3D movie through the Plex app on Samsung Blu-ray players or TVs.

NOTE: In step 2, move the 3D-MVC codec source file below the H.264 codec source file. Otherwise, you may experience errors when attempting to play the file on non-compatible Plex apps, as installed on Apple TV or LG Smart TVs. I had a "transcoder crashed" error every time, until I moved it down.

NOTE: In step 5, after attempting to watch this .M2TS file through Plex on my Apple TV and LG Smart TV, but not being able to get the 3D-MVC stream to work, I decided to try the Plex app I have on my Blu-ray player. It was a success. The moment I clicked to play the movie through the Samsung app, the system detected a 3D signal and automatically changed the display to output the stellar 3D image. And that 3D image is exactly as it appears on the Blu-ray 3D.

The real problem is why aren't all Plex apps the same? Plex apps on Samsung devices supports 3D-MVC playback, but Plex apps on Apple TV and LG Smart TVs don't. On the flipside, Plex apps on iOS, Mac and Apple TV allows me to change streaming quality from as small as 240p, to 320p, to 480p, to 720p, to 1080p, to the original quality of the file, with many bitrate offerings in between. But, Plex on Samsung devices doesn't offer that feature. I would like to have all Plex apps support 3D-MVC playback AND selective quality changes.

I tried this "3D-MVC .M2TS through Plex" method before, but chalked it up as "it doesn't work" since the 3D effect wasn't coming through my Apple TV Plex app. So, I gave up, not realizing until today, Plex apps vary across different devices. We need consistency and full support for all home theater media.


#2

The real problem is why aren't all Plex apps the same?

Currently, each Plex client uses the platform's native video player, that's why there's inconsistency regarding playback format support. If the native player doesn't support the format, the Plex server must transcode and so formats will work better than others depending on the playback platform/client.

Given the extreme variances in hardware capabilities and difference in native format support across all the platforms, I'm not sure that this would change even if Plex developed their own video player for each and every platform. For example, I believe that there would have to be some level of native hardware support for 3D. For the Apple TV gen 4, that means using MOV/MP4 format so that they can be played natively (without transcoding).


#3

@darcilicious said:

The real problem is why aren't all Plex apps the same?

Currently, each Plex client uses the platform's native video player, that's why there's inconsistency regarding playback format support. If the native player doesn't support the format, the Plex server must transcode and so formats will work better than others depending on the playback platform/client.

Given the extreme variances in hardware capabilities and difference in native format support across all the platforms, I'm not sure that this would change even if Plex developed their own video player for each and every platform. For example, I believe that there would have to be some level of native hardware support for 3D. For the Apple TV gen 4, that means using MOV/MP4 format so that they can be played natively (without transcoding).

I'm the most surprised by the Plex app on my LG Smart 3DTV doesn't have the 3D functionality within the Plex app. I'd understand Apple TV not supporting it, but a 3DTV Plex app should. Maybe we will get some app updates, but with 3D being out for many years already, I'm not hopeful. I just hope they don't remove 3D Plex streaming from my Samsung Blu-ray player, since that's the only device I have that supports it.


#4

Step 2b:

put H-SBS like a part of the name of a 3D movie with half-side-by-side format
or put H-TAB like a part of the name of a 3D movie with half-top-and-bottom format...


#5

"Is 3D playback supported?
Yes. However, note that there is nothing special that the Plex app can do to instruct the television that a specific video is 3D. You will need to enable the appropriate 3D viewing mode on the television yourself.
See the Specific Model Differences section for more information."
https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/203810286-What-media-formats-are-supported-

WRONG!!!

If do you have an 3D file you can´t activate the 3D funtion on a Sumsing SmartTV, except :

  • if you put H-SBS like a part of the name of a 3D movie with half-side-by-side format
  • if you put H-TAB like a part of the name of a 3D movie with half-top-and-bottom format

This means that there is something that the Plex app can do to instruct the television that a specific video is 3D, ONLY is neccessary to ADD "H-SBS" or "H-TAB" to the file name of the 3D movie!!!!

Without H-SBS or H-TAB inside the name of the movie, I can NOT activate 3D funtion inside Plex application in my Samsung Smart TV H6500. But... with H-SBS or H-TAB inside the movie name.... EUREKA!!!! my smartTV directly activate the 3D funtion only when I press Play opcion inside the Plex app...

For me this stupid solution did resolve a huge problem with 3D movies!!!!


#6

@"TYRELL Corporation" said:

If do you have an 3D file you can´t activate the 3D funtion on a Sumsing SmartTV, except :

  • if you put H-SBS like a part of the name of a 3D movie with half-side-by-side format
  • if you put H-TAB like a part of the name of a 3D movie with half-top-and-bottom format

This means that there is something that the Plex app can do to instruct the television that a specific video is 3D, ONLY is neccessary to ADD "H-SBS" or "H-TAB" to the file name of the 3D movie!!!!

That's really cool.... is there anything similar for LG 3D TV?
Thanks
Chris


#7

@“TYRELL Corporation” said:
Step 2b:

put H-SBS like a part of the name of a 3D movie with half-side-by-side format
or put H-TAB like a part of the name of a 3D movie with half-top-and-bottom format…

how? can you put a example please, like renamed to movie.mkv.H-SBS ???


#8

@“vexed02@hotmail.com” said:
True 3D from Blu-ray 3D does work on Plex, but it depends on what device your Plex app is on. I will explain in detail below…

SUCCESS! After numerous attempts, I finally got Blu-ray 3D rips to work through Plex. In order to watch these 3D versions, you will obviously need a 3DTV with 3D glasses, but also a compatible Plex app. I say “compatible,” because not all Plex apps are the same. The LG and Apple TV Plex apps apparently doesn’t support real 3D (they can be converted to “fake 3D” using the TVs 3D button on your remote control, but it has much less dimension and depth accuracy is often horrendous), however I have found Samsung Plex apps selects real 3D (aka. 3D-MVC). The good news is, if you don’t have 3DTVs, glasses, or a compatible Plex app, you can still watch the normal “flat” 2D version from the same file. So, you will always be able to watch these movies, but you will only be able to see the 3D effects with the right setup, including the right Plex app. This eliminates the need for two files of the same movie (one file for 2D viewing, another file for 3D viewing).

Instructions are as follows…

  1. Use “MakeMKV” to rip the Blu-ray 3D (be sure to checkmark the 3D-MVC codec file too).
  2. Use “tsMuxeR” to remux the .MKV file to an .M2TS file.
  3. Add the .M2TS file to Plex.
  4. Watch 3D movie through the Plex app on Samsung Blu-ray players or TVs.

NOTE: In step 2, move the 3D-MVC codec source file below the H.264 codec source file. Otherwise, you may experience errors when attempting to play the file on non-compatible Plex apps, as installed on Apple TV or LG Smart TVs. I had a “transcoder crashed” error every time, until I moved it down.

NOTE: In step 5, after attempting to watch this .M2TS file through Plex on my Apple TV and LG Smart TV, but not being able to get the 3D-MVC stream to work, I decided to try the Plex app I have on my Blu-ray player. It was a success. The moment I clicked to play the movie through the Samsung app, the system detected a 3D signal and automatically changed the display to output the stellar 3D image. And that 3D image is exactly as it appears on the Blu-ray 3D.

The real problem is why aren’t all Plex apps the same? Plex apps on Samsung devices supports 3D-MVC playback, but Plex apps on Apple TV and LG Smart TVs don’t. On the flipside, Plex apps on iOS, Mac and Apple TV allows me to change streaming quality from as small as 240p, to 320p, to 480p, to 720p, to 1080p, to the original quality of the file, with many bitrate offerings in between. But, Plex on Samsung devices doesn’t offer that feature. I would like to have all Plex apps support 3D-MVC playback AND selective quality changes.

I tried this “3D-MVC .M2TS through Plex” method before, but chalked it up as “it doesn’t work” since the 3D effect wasn’t coming through my Apple TV Plex app. So, I gave up, not realizing until today, Plex apps vary across different devices. We need consistency and full support for all home theater media.

should all settings in tsmuxer must stay the same except moving the 3d-mvc codec below the h.264 and of course selecting M2TS muxing? should i change some setting else? what about subtitles 3d offset should i leave plane #0 as default?


#9

I downloaded makemkv and the option for changing the codecs is not there.


#10

I currently have an LG tv that does support 3D but as it states here LG’s Plex app doesn’t support its use because the LG doesn’t support Real3D. I do have a separate Sony 3D Blu Ray player that I can watch disc with on that LG tv. I actually use an Nvidia Shield Pro to run my Plex Client so piping a ripped 3D movie on Plex through the shield, anyone ever tried that and did it work?


#11

@Rjreiffer said:
I downloaded makemkv and the option for changing the codecs is not there.

MakeMKV rips discs bit for bit. It doesn’t change codecs or anything else.