How do star ratings impact Radio choice of tracks in Plexamp?

I have a collection of about 80k tracks. About 5% of these tracks actually have star ratings in Plex. Of those tracks that are rated, about 20% have ratings higher than 2 stars.

When I play a station in Plexamp (like “celebratory radio”), I notice that when a track that comes up is rated, it always has a rating of 3 stars or higher. That is, even though nearly 80% of the rated tracks are rated 2-stars, I never see 2-star rated tracks show up in stations that I play on plexamp.

Note that the behaviour for mixes seems to be different. I can get 2-star tracks in mixes.

This is not what I want. The star ratings meaning to me is below. (and of course this is individual. Everyone has a different scheme.) Basically I see tracks as “yuk”, “meh” and “banger”. I chose this scheme so I can have artist-scale, genre-scale and library-scale levels of “bangerness”.

  • 1 star: Never want to hear this track again. (not many tracks)
  • 2 stars: Happy for it to come up in a shuffle, but not a banger (about 80% of rated tracks)
  • 3, 4, 5 stars: bangers, super bangers and mega bangers. I use these to build playlists. (The cream)

But it looks like Plexamp is seeing 2 stars as “I never want this to come up in radio but it can come up in mixes”.

I cannot find the exact impact of star ratings on radio documented, nor have I managed to find a way to configure how star ratings impact shuffles/radios. (I thought there was a way to turn it off, but can’t find it ATM.)

This kind of behaviour should be configurable, or at least documented so I can match my star ratings to the behaviour.

Any insights?

Rating > 5/10 biases radios and smart shuffle towards tracks.
Rating < 5/10 biases radios and smart shuffle against tracks.

The biases don’t result in the track always/never playing.

I just generated 15-20 play queues using mood radio. All but one of the queues had at least one 3+ star track and most had 2 or more. Not a single one had a 2-star track in it.

Out of 83.3k tracks, 3740 are rated 2 and about 20 are rated 1, and 1105 are rated 3,4 or 5.

That is indicative of a very strong bias agains 2-star tracks. (and about a 2-1 bias towards 3-star tracks over unrated tracks.)

This using the latest Android version of Plexamp and the latest-but 1 release of PMS.

Ah yes, some radios do not include low-rated tracks, I misspoke; smart shuffle limits to biasing.

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Since Plex uses Sonic Analysis to know which tracks sound similar…

If I highly rate a track, does that mean that tracks that sound similar are more likely to be chosen in any context?

No…

Would it be possible to give some indication of the strength of the biases for: high-rated vs. unrated vs. low-rated in:

  • radio stations
  • mixes
  • smart shuffles

I have this queasy feeling that high-rated tracks are so strongly preferred over unrated tracks that once I have about 5-10% of my library rated such that it can appear in radio, that’s pretty-much all that I am going to hear on radio, negating radio as a tool for discovery.

So is it fair to say that 5/10 (i.e. 2.5 stars in the Plex interface?) gives a flat and unbiased preference for a track? And is that preference any different from that for an unrated track?

Same bias above and below 5/10.

Other biases for recent listens

Is 5/10 in some way special? Looking at the one-star system, I think you mean below 5/10 and greater than or equal to 5/10?

In other words, on the scale of “Yuk”, “Meh”, “Yum” I seem to be seeing

1-4 == “Yuk”
unrated == “Meh”
5-10 == “Yum”

What is the actual strength of the bias? My experimentation suggests the bias is pretty strong - of the order of 5:1 relative preference between the levels?

Assume none of the tracks are “recently” played. (But what does “recent” even mean?)

@elan Has there been any improvement in classifying Seasonal Music instead of 1-Starring them? A potential Seasonal Radio perhaps?

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