Normally I would, but with the whole SARS-COV2 thing I’m High Risk, My sister who lives with me works as a nurse for a Heart Doctor, & sees SUPER high risk people all day, & my Dad, who is staying with us right now because he’s buying a house & is living with my other sister 80 miles away from his work, while I’m only 25. He works at a school. So I’m home, have no social life, don’t really like video games, & fill my time with ripping discs, & sometimes VHS tapes… So time is something I have much more of than I need right now
Hugs, man. I have a bunch of nurses in my family too. Those dudes and chicks are absolute insane heroes. I’m worried because they’re starting to crack, too.
Check this out:
I dunno if they know what they’re talking about, or if they’re all copying from IMDB.
Edit: Is that a “Copyright M____” in the first frame of the video? It looks more like “MCML” than “MCMLIII” or “MCMLIV”. Maybe?
Yeah they are citing FROM IMDB but there’s a reason TVdb doesn’t consider IMDB a much better source than Wikipedia
Here’s a clean copy! At 6 seconds, MCML.
And a seemingly authoritative statement if you visit the YouTube page itself.
I don’t see what you’re refering to, but the version I have is less washed out than any version I have found online & I’ve looked & there isn’t any year anywhere
My apologies, I shouldn’t have linked that without checking it out myself (which I have now).
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Mine doesn’t have that. But I see it here for sure. But it also says “Hill & Range Songs, Inc” which makes me assume that would be Copyright for the song, Which came out in November or December, depending on the source, of 1950. & remember, this was a time when animation took a lot longer than it does today, & it would have been extremely unlikely for a song to be released early to a studio to make that
Yup Hill & Range is a Music publishing company & doesn’t do videos, not even Music Videos
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I think you’re absolutely right and MCML (1950) is the copyright date of the song.
But - I would like to submit another piece of evidence to the court.
At the end of the video? MCMLI (1951). I think that’s the ACTUAL copyright date of the video.
There’s still the argument about production vs. release date, but that’s boring. 
That could well be correct, a year later would definitely be possible. A month is not. The best sources I found were the network that aired it, as part of a Bozo variety show or something, that is quoted as saying “we aired it again in 1955, & again every year after that” which only goes to indicate the 2nd airing was 1955. Most of the sources that are NOT citing IMDB list it as 1954, with a good number as 1953 as well.
But that is definitely a good video. It’s even a bit clearer than mine, though still a little more washed out. But mine transitions into it from a different thing with no title card & out of it with no end tag either. So thanks for that. I may have to acquire that video. If only it didn’t have the Website tattooed over it
It’s undeniable proof that 1950 is wrong, because that would mean the 1951 date was in the future.
I’m pretty sure the Little Golden Book was published in 1951. That seems less mysterious. I may even have it, somewhere.
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Some more information, just because you might find it interesting, there are 2 other Song Cartoon Shorts that aired with it, Hardrock, Coco, & Joe: The 3 Little Dwarves (Yes Dwarves, not elves that help Santa) & Suzy Snowflake that are both listed as 1951. I made slap-together posters for each of them so they are now Pretty on TMDB. & thanks to that high-def (Yes it’s 1080p) version of Frosty you shared I could make a not horrible poster for it from a screencap
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Is the ID just the number in the URL or everything that follows the final / (that is, is the ID “71317-gamlet” or “71317" in the url www themoviedb org/movie/71317-gamlet? So far I’ve been unable to convince Plex to match this movie.
I haven’t been able to get Plex to match with TMDB IDs for a long time, IMDB IDs it does fine with [tt##########] just numbers aside from the “tt” to start
Read the support document. It shows syntax and has examples. You must be running PMS v1.20.1 or higher.
Except the problem is that those methods don’t work for TMDB, they do for IMDB, but TMDB may return a match, but all it’ll do with that match is follow it to where the IMDB linked to the entry goes. If it has none it literally matches & does nothing
Can you share an example? That hasn’t been my experience.
Is this with the current “Plex Movie” Scanner & Agent?
Which movie, and what’s your filename?
I get an immediate match and metadata (description, actors, directors, artwork, etc) using either TMDB or IMDB IDs. As @Volts mentions, make sure you are using the new Plex Movie scanner/agent, not Plex Movie (Legacy).
Plex Docs → Scanners & Agents
→ Upgrading a Movie library to the use the new Plex Movie Agent
→ Advanced settings Plex Movie Agent
Using Batman Begins from Plex docs and Hamlet from your previous post:
/Test Movies/Batman Begins (2005) {tmdb-272}/Batman Begins (2005) {tmdb-272}.mkv
/Test Movies/Hamlet (1964) {tmdb-71317}/Hamlet (1964) {tmdb-71317}.mkv
Right. I get a “match” using those, but the Metadata it pulls is NEVER from TheMovieDB
Plex Docs? What Hamlet? That’s not from any of my posts & I don’t remember anyone posting about those movies here. Those movies I’m sure both have the information you are billing on IMDB. Try it with one that doesn’t have an entry on IMDB or one whose IMDB information is different from TheMovieDB. Frosty was the one I was using to test, but my IMDB correction was finally approved & now it’s listed correctly.
Try this one. Miraculous: A Christmas Special which doesn’t have an IMDB entry. I can get it to match, but after it matches no matter how many times I Refresh Metadata or dance it only shows a complete nothing. {tmdb-773564} does absolutely nothing. It doesn’t auto-match, going to fix match doesn’t help. Though changing the match to TheMovieDB agent will give it a match with the correct year & movie title, like it did before, after selecting it & Metadata refreshes, hours of waiting, restart the server, whatever, it only ever gives 1900-01-01 as the Originally Available date
But the fact that those tmdb numbers give nothing means that that support doc is wrong. I can put in just the {tt######} in a fix match & get the IMDB entry. But there’s no way for me to get the TMDB entry
There is some misunderstanding here.
The TMDB/IMDB ids are only used for matching to the correct item, it doesn’t change the source of the metadata. All items using the Plex Movie agent will get the metadata from our metadata provider which uses multiple sources.
You also cannot have items from different agents inside a Plex Movie library, the only exception here being when you have upgraded a legacy library and the old items haven’t yet been refreshed.
