I want to get best NAS for Plex Server, because !

Hi,
I have some media files it seems doesn’t play full HD on my Apple TV and it getting reduce resolution not sure why
but it seems because of my NAS server .. after I checking Plex NAS Compatibility document
it says : " Real-time transcoding locked to 480p "
my current NAS is this : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015S0Y50M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Media that didn’t play in full HD are:

and:

Here is my LOG:

here are the option I’m thinking to getting :smile:

@trumpy81 said:
Rather than spend a bucket load of money, why don’t you just re-encode your files so that they can be Direct Played?

I recommend HandBrake (free for PC/Mac) or any similar software. The preferred format to use is MP4 H.264/AAC or AVC/AAC as this is the most compatible format across the most devices.

If you keep the High Code level to 4.1 or less, the overall bitrate to 20Mbps or less and the RefFrames at 4 or 5 then your media should playback on almost any device without needing transcoding.

If using HandBrake, start with the Fast 1080p 30 preset and enable ‘Web Optimised’ and on the Video tab enable ‘Fast Decode’. All of the other settings should be fine, but do check that the audio, chapters and subtitle tabs are to your liking.

If you simply want to upgrade, then go for the 626X, you’ll need a big wallet for that though.

the overall bitrate to 20Mbps or less.

Is that correct??

@trumpy81 said:
Yes, that is correct for the average home network.

Ok
Sorry I was thinking for remote!!
The OP should be warned that bitrate won’t work for remote clients!!

@trumpy81 said:
Rather than spend a bucket load of money, why don’t you just re-encode your files so that they can be Direct Played?

I recommend HandBrake (free for PC/Mac) or any similar software. The preferred format to use is MP4 H.264/AAC or AVC/AAC as this is the most compatible format across the most devices.

If you keep the High Code level to 4.1 or less, the overall bitrate to 20Mbps or less and the RefFrames at 4 or 5 then your media should playback on almost any device without needing transcoding.

If using HandBrake, start with the Fast 1080p 30 preset and enable ‘Web Optimised’ and on the Video tab enable ‘Fast Decode’. All of the other settings should be fine, but do check that the audio, chapters and subtitle tabs are to your liking.

If you simply want to upgrade, then go for the 626X, you’ll need a big wallet for that though.

Thanks for the suggested solution
but its not practical for me specially when you download and want to enjoy the high quality possible of media without
any changes …

Are you confident if I get one of the suggested NAS listed would play those media without any issue or reducing the resolution to 480p ?

I need to be sure getting better NAS won’t fail me on playing high res media like the one i listed …

I’m planning to get one of the these NAS :

RN626X00
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KBRMNKG?tag=price222-20&ascsubtag=272998551&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
RN524X00 ( 4Bay)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7X2FP2?tag=price222-20&ascsubtag=263658906&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

@trumpy81 said:
So you think re-encoding somehow reduces the quality of a file, sorry, but that’s a pretty weak argument.

I didn’t day that … what i meant is I want to enjoy the media I download strait away without any changes required
like ( Plug and Play )

Since you have no way of knowing exactly what you are downloading, then no, no one can guarantee that any NAS will be able to handle it.

The 626X uses a Xeon D-1521 and that has a passmark of 6980. That should be good for transcoding two 1080p streams at the same time, but that depends entirely on the files themselves.

The 524X might transcode one 1080p stream, but without knowing the full specs and the fact that it is only dual core, that might be a bit iffy. It is not listed in the compatibility guide and therefore has not been tested by Plex.

you right but this one is listed :
RN526X00
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ReadyNAS-Performance-Processor-RN526X00-100NES/dp/B01KBRMNN8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1507272955&sr=1-1&keywords=526X

If a 4 Bay NAS is acceptable, then try a Synology DS916+ or DS918+, or take a look at the QNAP TS-453A.

I checked for the document for Synology DS916+ it says " *May struggle with some high bitrate HD media "
is that means I may face some issues playing some media ?

@trumpy81 said:
Yes, you may face difficulty playing any unknown media on any NAS.

The DS916+ and the other NAS I mentioned need to have HW Acceleration enabled within Plex in order to successfully transcode 1080p files, but they are 1/4 of the cost of the ReadyNAS 626X and still serviceable.

Now i’m close to decide but as final comparison, which is best and highest perform

RN526X00
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ReadyNAS-Performance-Processor-RN526X00-100NES/dp/B01KBRMNN8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1507282222&sr=8-1&keywords=Netgear+ReadyNAS+RN526X

or

DS918+
https://www.amazon.com/Synology-bay-DiskStation-DS918-Diskless/dp/B075N1Z9LT/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1507282411&sr=1-1&keywords=DS918%2B

@trumpy81 said:
The 526X is only Dual core, the DS918+ is Quad core. My money would be on the Synology, but it’s your choice.

ok final question

both has quad core

RN626 & DS918+

why RN626 is higher price and is it best and better than DS918+?
just help me whit this last point

RN626 VS DS918+

The RN626 has a more powerful Xeon processor while the DS918+ only has a Celeron.

@trumpy81 said:
The 526X is only Dual core, the DS918+ is Quad core. My money would be on the Synology, but it’s your choice.

Found out the DS718+

has quad core … does that means it has some strong performance ?

I would suggest investing in clients that support lots of formats in direct play instead, such as the nvidia shieldtv or a device that runs kodi.

@trumpy81 said:

@makkistyle said:

@trumpy81 said:
The 526X is only Dual core, the DS918+ is Quad core. My money would be on the Synology, but it’s your choice.

Found out the DS718+
Synology Inc.

has quad core … does that means it has some strong performance ?

If you check, you will find the only difference between the DS918+ and DS718+ is the number of drive bays. You want to stick with at least 4 Bays, because you will quickly fill up those drives and if you don’t have enough drive bays, then you’ve spent a lot of money for nothing.

Oh and don’t forget, you have to use NAS rated drives, desktop drives are not suitable for use in a NAS and some don’t work properly at all in a NAS.

You should also invest in a UPS to prevent data loss during a power event.

So Shall I say getting
** DS718+**

would be a huge upgrade from my current :

ReadyNAS 212
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015S0Y50M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

as I can get Seagate 10TB IronWolf Pro for each bay

It is a huge upgrade, but the only thing separating that NAS from the other in terms of full transcoding is the QuickSync support which enables HW transcoding. The actual CPU in it is still too weak for most software transcodes. If you happen to stumble across something which can’t be transcoded by the HW functionality, and Plex falls back on software, that CPU would most likely be too weak (in many, but not all cases). It is a Celeron, as have been stated before. Remember also that HW transcoding means generally speaking, a harder hit on quality than software (though neither is “good”).

Now when I check Plex NAS document they do mention ( *May struggle with some high bitrate HD media )
what does that mean ? and how can I know if my media file has high bitrate ?

Thanks

Why sink all that money into a NAS that may not even be powerful enough? Provided that your Internet connection is fast enough you can just store your media in the Cloud & let the storage provider worry about backups, redundancy, hardware failures, running costs etc It’s only $10/month for G Suite for Business with unlimited storage on Google Drive (the 1TB limit for a single user is not enforced). Even cheaper if you live outside the US is unlimited storage on Amazon Cloud Drive although this can’t be used with Plex Cloud it can be used with Plex on a VPS or local PMS mounted using rclone

@trumpy81 said:

@makkistyle said:

@trumpy81 said:
The 526X is only Dual core, the DS918+ is Quad core. My money would be on the Synology, but it’s your choice.

Found out the DS718+
Synology Inc.

has quad core … does that means it has some strong performance ?

If you check, you will find the only difference between the DS918+ and DS718+ is the number of drive bays. You want to stick with at least 4 Bays, because you will quickly fill up those drives and if you don’t have enough drive bays, then you’ve spent a lot of money for nothing.

Oh and don’t forget, you have to use NAS rated drives, desktop drives are not suitable for use in a NAS and some don’t work properly at all in a NAS.

You should also invest in a UPS to prevent data loss during a power event.

HI trumpy81,
Just wanted to inform you I got the 626x and its working like a charm with no issues at all
I never experienced Plex with this kind of fast streaming, I had many TV Shows and Movies that was unable to Play or Play in HD …

There is an episode size 10GB and man got tell you it played it in a second …

I know this is kind of expensive NAS but My friend want to get something similar cheaper

which one of these are best

Synology DS718+ NAS
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075MZTQBT/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3IM98FBKI0ZWE&colid=29INUNSVL3ADT&th=1

or

NETGEAR ReadyNAS RN526X
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KBRMNN8/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I6UFEOIQA466&colid=29INUNSVL3ADT


I’m a bit confusing because one is quad and other one is dual core

as for Plex NAS document ( not updated yet for DS718+ ) it says RN526X is support all media and has no issue

Thanks

any support ?

@trumpy81 said:
The file size means very little, at best it indicates how much compression has been applied or not applied to the file.

The 526X uses a Pentium D-1508 which is OK for transcoding one 1080p file, thanks to it’s clock speed, but it does not have QSV which means Plex cannot utilise HW Acceleration with it. It is also only dual core, which means it can do ~twice the work of a standard CPU. It does have 6 drive bays though, which would be useful if you needed extra storage space.

The DS918+ uses an Intel Celeron J3455 which again is OK for one 1080p transcode, but Plex can implement HW Acceleration with this CPU which will boost the capability of this CPU a fair amount, because this CPU has QSV. It should easily be able to transcode two 1080p files at the same time, possibly more. It is also quad core which means it can do ~4 times the work of a standard CPU. The DS918+ only has 4 drive bays, so that may be a limiting factor.

Also, the DS918+ is a bit cheaper that the 526X. I also prefer DSM over the Netgear OS. It is much more flexible and very easy to use. The Netgear OS is rather restrictive and not so easy to deal with where it matters.

you kept mention The DS918+ rather than DS718+
but since both DS718+ & DS918+ uses the same spec …

Thanks a lot … I will suggest him to go for DS718+

Cheers

@trumpy81

I just got DS718+ but not sure which PMS I should download ?

any support ?

And I also suggest buy a 4 bay at least.