Inconsistency with display name for TV local extras

I am running a NVidia Shield as a client and using a Synology NAS as a server and I have noticed since the new local extras for TV was added last year there seems to be a bit of inconsistency in the display names for these extras.

For example:

So this displays the Show name, the season and episode name and the extra title that I gave it, the file is named as such:

Breaking Bad - S01E05 - Gray Matter - Walt and Skyler Arrive at the Party-deleted1
Breaking Bad - S01E05 - Gray Matter - Target Practice-deleted2

Example 2:

However sometimes I see only the title I gave the file like in the above picture. This file is names as such: Breaking Bad - S05E02 - Madrigal - It Gets Easier (extra icky version)-deleted

For the life of me I can’t figure out why sometimes it displays the long name and sometimes it displays just the title that I give it. Having looked out other shows in my library I seeing both types of displays and as usual it seems to vary between season and does not stay consistent.

Any idea how I get it to show the title only as that i much more aesthetically pleasing.

I was under the impression (and told by ninjas) that there is no way to use your own titles for local extras, but that is clearly not the case for your files.

The second example that you’re using seems to not have matched with the agent (usually TVDB), so maybe that’s why it’s falling back to the file name for the naming conventions. TVDB doesn’t have an “extra icky” version so it might not have matched at all. But this is only a guess.

I don’t think extras have to match with TVDB at all, just the episode itself which it has done as it has placed it under the correct episode. and the switch at the end categorises what it is (deleted/featurette etc.)

I have many examples of this in my library.

Maybe just the fact that you changed the name in Plex is enough? I feel like it might help to see a few more examples or the edit details to see what is different from the default matching.

Local extras don’t match against online databases or use a file’s embedded metadata.

Plex will pick up the extra names for show and season tier extras rather easily. There used to be no way to do the same for episodes. That’s changed though.

Make sure to use the exact name of the episode as the base of the extra‘s filename (to the letter!!).
Schema:
<episode file name> - <extra title><extra type suffix>.ext

Example:

  • Episode: Ugly Americans (2010) - s01e02 - An American Werewolf in America.mp4
  • Extra: Ugly Americans (2010) - s01e02 - An American Werewolf in America - Scene 123-deleted.mp4
    → extra will display as Scene 123
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I will have another look but I usually copy paste the name from the episode to avoid any differences in file name.

I thought I had it figured it out for a minute, so had a look at Breaking Bad and for any episode that has a single deleted scene displays the title that I give it. But any that have multiple scenes as separate files don’t, here is an example:

Multiple deleted scenes:

Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot
Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot - Walt’s Birthday Speech-deleted1
Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot - Walt Jr. helps his dad-deleted2
Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot - Walt shows Jessie the Goods-deleted3

So you can see here the title of the episode is consistent through out.

When I look at a episode that only has a single deleted scene like this:

Breaking Bad - S02E01 - Seven Thirty-Seven
Breaking Bad - S02E01 - Seven Thirty-Seven - Loading his Gun-deleted

I get the scene name “Loading his Gun.”

However I just looked at The Office and Parks and Supernatural and I noticed another inconsistency, in this case both only have one deleted scene but both display differently:

The Office:

The Office (US) - S01E01 - Pilot
The Office (US) - S01E01 - Pilot-deleted

Displays just the episode name

But for Supernatural it displays the file name:

Supernatural - S01E01 - Pilot
Supernatural - S01E01 - Pilot-deleted

So I had a dig through my library and I found that this inconsistency is mostly for deleted scenes, featurette seems to work 99% of the time. The only time it fails is when you have multiple featurettes and stick a number after it like -featurette1, -featurette2 etc.

Will post some pictures later on after work, found one where the the deleted scene displays the long name yet the displays the title I gave it.

If you’re using a title in the local extra name, drop the index at the end of the extra-type suffix.

e.g.

Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot
Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot - Walt's Birthday Speech-deleted
Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot - Walt Jr. helps his dad-deleted
Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot - Walt shows Jessie the Goods-deleted

You only need the trailing index if the extra file names contain no title (otherwise you could only have 1 extra per episode and extra type):

Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot
Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot-deleted1
Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot-deleted2
Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot-deleted3
Breaking Bad - S01E01 - Pilot-deleted4

Thanks Tom, when you lay it out like that it seems so obvious and I feel a bit silly. I have removed the numbers and they do indeed now work. That is going to be a long slog to update in the library and the back ups, a little task for a rainy weekend afternoon.

However I have still stumbled across another inconsistency, I just started adding Supernatural to my library yesterday and again the Deleted scenes are not playing nice.

For example:

So you can see here it is not simply just calling it Pilot, as the scene has no name.

Supernatural - S01E01 - Pilot
Supernatural - S01E01 - Pilot-deleted
Supernatural - S01E01 - Pilot - Pilot Script-featurette

Featurette always seem to work and you can see in the example above it is displaying a title. This seems consistent for S1, when I added S2 they all actually display the title, so I tried the Plex dance and removed all the deleted scenes for S1 and readded then and refreshed the meta data but still get the same issue. Any ideas why this happens sometimes?

Edit:
Just browsing through by library and seeing this quite a bit and just checked some Battlestar Galactica and seeing full episode titles instead of just episode names:

Battlestar Galactica (2003) - S04E01 - He That Believeth in Me
Battlestar Galactica (2003) - S04E01 - He That Believeth in Me-deleted

It’s perfectly consistent :wink:
From Plex’ perspective your deleted scene has no title. If you want to show the title Pilot, name your files like this:

Supernatural - S01E01 - Pilot
Supernatural - S01E01 - Pilot - Pilot-deleted
Supernatural - S01E01 - Pilot - Pilot Script-featurette

Your own example didn’t add any text in addition to the episode file base name (“Supernatural - S01E01 - Pilot”). Therefore the extra was treated as an “anonymous” extra, using the full file name.

Is it consistent though Tom? :wink:

This example shows that it isn’t, The Office Pilot is simply called Pilot and the display name for a deleted scene is Pilot, but the file is names as such:

The Office (US) - S01E01 - Pilot
The Office (US) - S01E01 - Pilot-deleted

I haven’t called the scene anything and it is picking up the episode name? I can show more examples, but it is very inconsistent.

Right after some playing around and remembering an initial request I had it appears that when Local TV extras first rolled out there was no option for any custom title so if you called something:

The Office - S01E01 - Pilot-deleted

The extra would display with the name of the episode (like in the picture above), when it became possible to add a custom title and you add no title it would display as

The Office - S01E01 - Pilot.

You might want to check your extra for some embedded metadata (assuming this is a mp4/m4v/mov container).

So I have gotten this figured out with naming my extra’s. My question is this. Is there a consistant way to set the order of one type of extra. If I have multiple deleted scenes for one episode, I want to set them to the order they are listed on the DVD I just ripped. Can’t really tell if there is a specific method.

The local extras are grouped by extra type.
There’s a known bug that’s preventing the items in each group to be sorted. So even if you number them, they currently will show out of order).

That’s disappointing, part of me doubts that will ever be fixed. Haven’t seen many updates to the extra’s or library organization of plex in a few years.

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