Linus tech tips - The WAN show - Plex issues making Linus considering jellyfin

I was on board with the sentiment until about a year ago. They have actually done more development and bug fixing on PlexAmp THIS YEAR alone than any previous years. Like, all you have to do is look at the Release Notes and there’s 16 Releases for 2022 alone with what I’d say significant improvement. Additionally each Release note has had a LONGER LIST of fixes and additions compared to its 1.0 days.

2022 had 16 releases.
2021 had 14 releases.
2020 had 11 releases.

2019 had absolutely ZERO public releases at all. Nill. Nada. (Base code rewritten from the ground up - internal development only)

2018 had 6 releases.

And a lot of the development has to coincide with any fixes or improvements along side with what they have on the server side, so any significant improvement must be balanced out into phases.

Like, I know for certain multi-room/group support is on its way.

gasp

Blasphemous!

Completely agree with what Linus had to say there. Core functionality is all I want out of this and it’s still broken. Downloads should be core to the experience and for it to be in the state it’s in is unacceptable.

He called out the simple (and obvious) problem that downloading programs simply doesn’t work and it’s sold as core functionality to the platform.

Instead we’re getting numerous ‘Plex tv’ features added that the vast majority of us here will never use.

His point of view is totally relevant to many of us here.

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I use Plex because I don’t care about tv.

Plex.tv seems like a regressive development approach to those of us who have ‘cut the cord’ and want everything in house.

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This was called out again here: The open source alternative to my sponsor - Jellyfin vs Plex - YouTube

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Seems like it. I wonder if we will get an open statement about it… or are our complaints really niche and inconsequential?

Hm. The download feature works for me. I’ve seen many complaints about it here though. I can’t troubleshoot it though, so I stay out of the topics.

I’m SURE if you were to corner a dev and get them to help you troubleshoot, you might be able to find out why the download feature doesn’t work. If not, I’d be surprised and totally on your side.

What does bug me are some of the restrictions I am starting to notice. They seem arbitrarily made-up limits, and anytime someone requests a change/option implemented, the threads usually end with a link to an already existing feature request from 5+ YEARS AGO that just occasionally get people chiming in on.

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Downloading on android is frustratingly hit-and-miss. It fails in many ways, but the most egregious is when Plex lies. It’ll claim that the video is downloaded, you board a plane, go to play the video, and it’s not available.

On Android, it is downright embarrassing how buggy downloads are. I spent my money to support this project with a Plex Pass in part to get the feature, and it just doesn’t work.

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Plex on Android is ridiculously bad in everything that isn’t the absolutely barebone functionality. Sometimes downloads don’t work but more often you download and then it doesn’t play. When they do download it’s painfully slow even if you take the original quality with no transcoding, on the local network and anyway the server is really quick for transcoding too.

Pause/resume on bluetooth headphones just doesn’t work, even if it works in literally any other program, be it for video or audio. Video can’t be extended over the punch hole area even if any other mainstream app (Netflix, YouTube) can do it. That is on standard reference implementations, like the Pixels.

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