HDGrandSlam will stream live TV, time-shift, leverage multiple tuner devices, show what’s on, and show you your already preconfigured (from my.hdhomerun.com) favorites…all without any configuration.
@wendilane said:
110% AMEN on the Live TV and Time Shifting.Although defining the default record path would be a nice to have, I have overcome this by re-ordering my TV folders putting my “recording” folder first, vs last. This effectively put my record folder as the default starting folder in the list.
Also, would like to be able to define more than one HDHomeRun devices. I have 3 Extend devices, giving me 6 ATSC tuners available, but currently can only define 1 device (2 Tuners). As you can imagine, it is easy to have recording conflicts when all are not available (especially when WMC is also using the available tuners).
This might be a noob question but how did you accomplish this? Deleting all folders and re-adding them? If so did you need to do a full re-scan of your TV Show library?
Same here, up bote for Live TV / Time shifting paramount for coming out of beta. The only thing keeping me on windows Media center is live TV and time shifting at this point. 2004-2016 WMC was way ahead of its time and still is to this day the best DVR on the planet. I would love to see Plex take the crown after. 12 year run.
Another vote for live TV and time-shifting. When I saw the email for Plex DVR I assumed live TV and DVR would be included and was about to order until I read the DVR FAQ and saw it was missing these two critical features.
+1 for LiveTV & time-shifting
Is anyone running the HDGrandSlam plugin for live TV concurrently with Plex DVR recordings?
+1 for live TV with time-shifting.
@yokoyama.ohana said:
HDGrandSlam will stream live TV, time-shift, leverage multiple tuner devices, show what’s on, and show you your already preconfigured (from my.hdhomerun.com) favorites…all without any configuration.
+1 for Live TV
Clicking “like” on the main post casts a vote, also @ronburley consider using the category “feature request voting” or add the terms to the title.
https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/163135/if-you-are-just-adding-1-posts-you-arent-voting/p1
Live TV has been a top vote for at least the last half year,
Cast a vote:
Live TV,
Time Shifting,
Programming guide & Defining record paths,
If the Plex needs more incentive, perhaps crowd source funding like comparable products (their xbox one app finally released the other week is impressive on my end) https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1275320038/hdhomerun-dvr-the-dvr-re-imagined
Plex would definitely gain a lifetime subscriber from me with these features.
@hyrumster said:
For live tv and time shifting, Programmatically, what are the issues? I assume that reading something while it is being written would put a lock on the file and interrupt writing unless there were some way to have an additonal file being written or being stored in memory?
Are there issues on the playback device as well?
From a discussion I had some time ago with a software developer (not working at Plex I should add) the likely issues are more around the playback than the capture (although they are both related). Recorded TV from the HDHR comes in as uncompressed MPEG-2 streams creating a file with some header information (video codec, audio codec, etc.) and it keeps growing as the recording progresses.
Plex currently supports many (is it now hundreds?) of devices many of which do not support MPEG-2 for playback although even those which do probably expect certain header information for playback items such as duration to allow play progress bars to display.
For those clients which require transcoding of the video (and possibly audio) stream for playback the transcoder which currently transcodes files in chunks will have to progressively read a file of unknown size, in no faster than real time, transcode and send to the client for playback. Currently players expect transcoded files in chunks, not a continuous stream. Again in this scenario there would be no duration information with the file for the player to work with.
So in summary, things which will likely have to change:
- All players supporting live (and delay-live) playback will need to support playing files of unknown length; with files arriving in different chunk sizes (or as a continuous stream) to current cached playback.
- Transcoder will need work to support files of indeterminate size, and be able process files in real time.
- Recorded files will not be able to post-process or be moved into the final library while any live playback clients are watching the file (delay-live playback). This likely means some scheduler work; maintaining connection lists for clients on live streams (and dealing with temporary connection loss due to external network issues, etc.)
- Dealing with part-watched information for clients (I may watch 30 minutes of a show live, and then want to resume from the same point after the recording has finished and has been post-processed.
I am not saying any of this is insurmountable, but it will certainly take some thought and time to get right.
David
Wow put live TV with time shifting on plex with a good guide and I can finally part ways with my hodgepodge of software/kodi/addons that I currently have to deal with! I would gladly pony up some additional $ for this functionality in the polished plex platform. As it is now its complicated for my wife to watch live TV unless I am there to turn it on lol
Emby figured live TV out some time ago…lets go Plex!
us46865…yes…they did…also unfortunately means a 6-10 start time due to a local transcode…but agreed better to have this than nothing at all.
LIVE TV Please and thank you!
Have liked the top post by Ron, and would like agree with and add support to what’s he states in his post. I have been waiting for years to find a way to cut the cord and this is so so close even at this early stage of development.
You guys are really onto something here keep up the good work and listen to what the users want and you will rock the the world and give other solutions something to really think about.
I paid my $150 PP for the DVR in hopes that we get Live TV
Just clicked on “Like” at the bottom of the original post on the first page of this thread. I hope that helps. If I had this feature, I could dump my expensive Comcast X1 box. Please please please please…
Though it would be great if this was built-in, in the meanwhile I have been having good luck with this plugin (though currently broken on the latest iOS client):
- Grid style Program Guide option
unless you are going to pay for their patent infringement its not going to happen…
i mean rove even sued (and won) against comcast
- Definable default record path for DVR recordings
it already asks you where you would like them saved to
@pallotto said:
- Grid style Program Guide option
unless you are going to pay for their patent infringement its not going to happen…
i mean rove even sued (and won) against comcast
As someone else pointed out - there is a world outside of the US - no such patent exists in Europe, for example. (Nor could it ever, because it’s clearly nonsense)
@smithyes said:
@pallotto said:
- Grid style Program Guide option
unless you are going to pay for their patent infringement its not going to happen…
i mean rove even sued (and won) against comcast
As someone else pointed out - there is a world outside of the US - no such patent exists in Europe, for example. (Nor could it ever, because it’s clearly nonsense)
good luck getting plex to make Plex DVR Europe edition. Good luck forcing plex to geo lock Plex DVR Europe edition so US customers cant use it. Good luck forcing Plex to field “i’m in the US and i cant use Plex DVR Europe Edition, i paid for a Plex Pass for this!” threads. Good luck convincing Plex going through all that headache and litigation because you live in Europe. rediculous.
They’re doing it there way, im sure they looked at it or looking at it and will decide if its worth licensing it. its only been out for more than a month.
