There is still some hope for a grid-style guide. Netflix won a lawsuit against Rovi last year on this very issue.
+1 for live TV with time-shifting !!!
@AeroR1 said:
@smithyes said:
@pallotto said:
- Grid style Program Guide option
unless you are going to pay for their patent infringement its not going to happen…
i mean rove even sued (and won) against comcast
As someone else pointed out - there is a world outside of the US - no such patent exists in Europe, for example. (Nor could it ever, because it’s clearly nonsense)
good luck getting plex to make Plex DVR Europe edition. Good luck forcing plex to geo lock Plex DVR Europe edition so US customers cant use it. Good luck forcing Plex to field “i’m in the US and i cant use Plex DVR Europe Edition, i paid for a Plex Pass for this!” threads. Good luck convincing Plex going through all that headache and litigation because you live in Europe. rediculous.
They’re doing it there way, im sure they looked at it or looking at it and will decide if its worth licensing it. its only been out for more than a month.
It’s a relatively sensible idea. However, your spelling of ‘ridiculous’ was, indeed, ridiculous.
Anyway, it’s not a whole new edition, it’s a single feature that’s probably not that difficult to build. But yes, as Plex is based in the US it probably won’t be at the top of their agenda.
That said, as savvy business people they might see the bigger picture and might want to tap into the Euro market.
@smithyes said:
@AeroR1 said:
@smithyes said:
@pallotto said:
- Grid style Program Guide option
unless you are going to pay for their patent infringement its not going to happen…
i mean rove even sued (and won) against comcast
As someone else pointed out - there is a world outside of the US - no such patent exists in Europe, for example. (Nor could it ever, because it’s clearly nonsense)
good luck getting plex to make Plex DVR Europe edition. Good luck forcing plex to geo lock Plex DVR Europe edition so US customers cant use it. Good luck forcing Plex to field “i’m in the US and i cant use Plex DVR Europe Edition, i paid for a Plex Pass for this!” threads. Good luck convincing Plex going through all that headache and litigation because you live in Europe. rediculous.
They’re doing it there way, im sure they looked at it or looking at it and will decide if its worth licensing it. its only been out for more than a month.
It’s a relatively sensible idea. However, your spelling of ‘ridiculous’ was, indeed, ridiculous.
Anyway, it’s not a whole new edition, it’s a single feature that’s probably not that difficult to build. But yes, as Plex is based in the US it probably won’t be at the top of their agenda.
That said, as savvy business people they might see the bigger picture and might want to tap into the Euro market.
Great retort. You win Internet points for pointing out one spelling mistake, or in the very least they should make you a Plex Ninja. This thread should be closed now.
It is very difficult and time consuming forking EVERY SINGLE version of Plex server on different platforms, different languages, etc just so you can see a grid because you live in Kazakhstan. They are not doing that.
+1 for live TV with time-shifting !!!
Would be just what the doctor ordered! Now using TV headend but would love to ditch that for Plex DVR if Live TV and Timeshift is possible in Plex server.
I’d be fine with Plex just revamping Channels to make it a usable option and letting the general public make a nice looking channel for HDHomeRun. 
I did vote for live tv though, as its more important than DVR for me at least.
++, would get rid of all of my old dvr’s and would pay for a second premium subscription lol
@AeroR1 said:
@smithyes said:
@AeroR1 said:
@smithyes said:
@pallotto said:
- Grid style Program Guide option
unless you are going to pay for their patent infringement its not going to happen…
i mean rove even sued (and won) against comcast
As someone else pointed out - there is a world outside of the US - no such patent exists in Europe, for example. (Nor could it ever, because it’s clearly nonsense)
good luck getting plex to make Plex DVR Europe edition. Good luck forcing plex to geo lock Plex DVR Europe edition so US customers cant use it. Good luck forcing Plex to field “i’m in the US and i cant use Plex DVR Europe Edition, i paid for a Plex Pass for this!” threads. Good luck convincing Plex going through all that headache and litigation because you live in Europe. rediculous.
They’re doing it there way, im sure they looked at it or looking at it and will decide if its worth licensing it. its only been out for more than a month.
It’s a relatively sensible idea. However, your spelling of ‘ridiculous’ was, indeed, ridiculous.
Anyway, it’s not a whole new edition, it’s a single feature that’s probably not that difficult to build. But yes, as Plex is based in the US it probably won’t be at the top of their agenda.
That said, as savvy business people they might see the bigger picture and might want to tap into the Euro market.Great retort. You win Internet points for pointing out one spelling mistake, or in the very least they should make you a Plex Ninja. This thread should be closed now.
It is very difficult and time consuming forking EVERY SINGLE version of Plex server on different platforms, different languages, etc just so you can see a grid because you live in Kazakhstan. They are not doing that.
Wow, you’re taking this feature-idea personally.
The feature would exist in every version - there wouldn’t be different forks. It’d be geo-locked depending on how crazily-suffocating the patent laws were in the particular country in which the server was located.
@smithyes hahahaha, right on…
Interesting fact, more effort for the DVR is occurring from DEVs not located in the USA
+1 for live TV with time-shifting
+1 for timeshift
Live TV and timeshift with a guide and DVR would make Plex pefect. Even if I had to pay a small annual fee for the guide as you do with others. Emby is doing live TV now so I’m sure Plex can do it. They need to do it to keep marketshare. I’m considering moving to Emby but for now I’ll try to hold out. I like Plex and I’m used to it so I’d rather keep it than buy a new media server.
I just purchased lifetime Plex Pass for TV functionality, I’m happy with the DVR but I purchased this subscription BEFORE you guys deliver the Live TV and timeshifting/pause because I want you to use this money I just paid to help your development, as it is Live TV that I am extremely interested in. Having said that, I am so impressed with the ease of use and how easy it is to record a programme/season pass. Amazing! Well done, you deserved my money.
+1 for live TV please… I just set up and tested Emby just for this feature, and I hate to say I may jump ship soon if this doesn’t happen pretty soon. I really prefer Plex’s overall interface and ease of use, but Emby’s live TV + time shift is pretty solid.
I love Plex for it’s core functionality, and I think the DVR is a logical extension of this. I have to laugh though that it’s been how many years that this existed in cable company boxes, and Windows Media Center - and yet somehow the basic “what does the DVR need to do” seems to elude so many developers. Emby and MythTV are slow, unreliable, and over-complicated. Plex and The Silicon Dust (HD Homerun folks) betas don’t scratch the surface of the basic required functionality: EPG, simple series and retention management, and time shifting. Otherwise the wife isn’t even going to look at it…which means I’m not even going to look at it.
Forget about photo tagging, plex-pass music libraries, cinema trailers, and all the other junk that I just have to wade through to get to my content. Put your effort into a really solid basic DVR that people can use and you’ll have a winner.
Yes please for Live TV - imagine being away in a different country - you don’t understand the language spoken on TV so connect to PLEX remotely and watch live TV using your HDHomeRun signal…!
@smacrae1970 said:
us46865…yes…they did…also unfortunately means a 6-10 start time due to a local transcode…but agreed better to have this than nothing at all.
Sadly, Plex would have to do this too - because most tv signals come in mpeg2 if SD, and h264 if HD - with wonky containers, meaning either a container swap or a full transcode - just like Emby.
Emby has the bonus however, that you can use Hardware transcoding (VAAPI, QuickSync, NVENC and whatever is on the Raspberry Pi) speeding up this process, by a ■■■■■■■■
Live TV, time shifting, pausing live TV, rewind and fast forward all on my list. Also, not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but recording by keyword would be nice, a feature of Windows Media Center. If you are interested in certain subjects (knitting, bowling, Africa, etc.), it will record shows based on a keyword list.
Purchased lifetime Plex Pass specifically for DVR to help in development. Still using Windows Media Center on Windows 8.1 but hoping either Plex or Silicondust will come through with a solid DVR replacement.
Thanks Plex team for all your hard work!
I’ve been using Plex for quite some time and I never heard about Emby before I saw the mentions here.
Honestly, I gave it a try yesterday and today I completely replaced my Plex installation with it. It can be a little buggy depending on what you do, but feature-wise it’s incredibly good. Live TV works perfectly, and they have a pretty good Windows app that allows you to watch your videos on Windows without transcoding, and their Android TV app is simply perfect.
I would really like to see Plex moving in that directly, mostly because I don’t like all the .NET and Mono stuff they have on the backend.
Here’s the problem - you can’t replace the DVR without taking into account that TV-provided boxes have the DVR and live viewing capability combined into one interface. This allows for viewing and pausing of live video/time-shifting, etc. I absolutely love Plex’s interface and some of the intelligence in the DVR code…but…in order for me to replace the cable tuner/dvr and not create a mutiny within the family, I need feature parity. It has to be a UNIFIED solution. Emby isn’t quite on par with granular DVR functions, transcoder quality, & has more bugs than a PoW camp in the summer, but it seems fit for purpose. I absolutely hate doing this, but for now, I need to use Emby for the family while using Plex on my own.
