Music: one new album per song after "Scan Library Files", when tracks have no title number

Server Version#: 1.18.1.1973
Player Version#: 3.104.2

Hello,
since server version 1.18 I noticed the following:

If I add new songs to my music database on my QNAP and then update the PLEX music library with “Scan Library Files”, then for each track that does not have a title number (which means: the tag “title no.” is empty), a new album is created.

The songs are neatly stored on my QNAP, in the folder structure “Artist” / “Album name” / “Song name” (possibly with track number before song name). Also, all files are tagged clean, with just these three tags (possibly plus track number) in the files. Therefore, in PLEX the option “Prefer local metadata” checked.

“Scanner” and “Agent” are “Plex Music”.

An example:
I have three songs from Michael Jackson that I can not assign to a “normal” album, and therefore I assigned them to the album “Various songs by Michael Jackson”. The tag “title no.” of the three songs is empty, the album tag of the three tracks is “Various songs by Michael Jackson”, and the artist tag is “Michael Jackson”.
After adding these three songs to my QNAP and updating with “Scan Library Files”, PLEX creates three new albums, all called “Various songs by Michael Jackson,” each containing one of the three songs
Before Server version 1.18, just one album was properly created, and all three songs were added to this album.
Now I have to manually put together these three albums, so that everything is right again.

For “standard” albums with track numbers, this error does not occur. When I add an album with e.g. ten songs, where the songs have the track numbers 1 to 10, right only one album is created with these ten songs.

I hope that this mistake will be fixed soon, as currently a lot of manual rework is required.

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Having same issue. What was the manual workaround? I tried a few things but gave up and downgraded back to 1.17 which fixed it.

With the latest server release 1.18.2, the bug is still there.

Just for testing, I created a new music library, and added six remixes of the song “Always On My Mind” by the Pet Shop Boys (which are on my harddisk in one folder, called “7 Always on my mind (Pet Shop Boys) - Remixes”). All the six tracks have no title number.

Still, six albums are created, all called “7 Always on my mind (Pet Shop Boys) - Remixes”, each consisting of one remix.

In the library options, I de-checked all “online options”, so no artist bio, no albums reviews, no popular tracks, and no concerts. The agent is “Personal Media Artists”, the scanner is “Plex Music scanner”, album art is “Local files only”, genres is “Embedded tags”, and “Prefer local metadata” is checked.

psb

How are the files NAMED ? Please show the directory structure with file names.

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These are the six files. The structure of the files on my harddisk (on my QNAP) is (for tracks without a tracknumber):

\\qnap\musik2\[artist name]\[album name]\[title]

so here it is:

\\qnap\musik2\Pet Shop Boys\7 Always on my mind (Pet Shop Boys) - Remixe\[title]

names

I always used and still use foobar2000 to “tag” my music files. So here is the screenshot of the foobar2000-id-tag-windows of one of the tracks:

And here is the screenshot of foobar2000-id-tag windows of all the six files (when you mark all files in foobar2000 and click “Properties”):

Still, for files WITH a tracknumber, the bug doesn’t appear - so everything is fine then.

Then the file structure is:

\\qnap\musik2\[artist name]\[album name]\[tracknumber]. [title]

e.g.

\\qnap\musik2\Pet Shop Boys\1 Please\01. One more chance.mp3

The track number is required; that’s why this isn’t a bug.

The documentation shows:

/Music
   /Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
      01 - Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I-V).m4a
      02 - Welcome to the Machine.mp3
      03 - Have a Cigar.mp3
   /Foo Fighters - One By One
   /Foo Fighters - There is Nothing Left to Lose
   /U2 - Joshua Tree

Example of a full multi-disc structure (curated with and renamed by MusicBrainz Picard)

[chuck@lizum ~.104]$ cd /vie/music/Supertramp
[chuck@lizum Supertramp.105]$ ls -la
total 68
drwxr-xr-x.  16 chuck chuck 4096 Jun 26 03:47 ./
drwxrwxrwx. 110 chuck chuck 4096 Oct 25 16:40 ../
drwxr-xr-x.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Jun 26 03:48 Supertramp - Breakfast in America/
drwxr-xr-x.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Supertramp - Brother Where You Bound/
drwxr-xr-x.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Jun 26 03:52 Supertramp - Classics, Volume 9/
drwxr-xr-x.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Supertramp - Crime of the Century/
drwxr-xr-x.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Supertramp - Crisis? What Crisis?/
drwxr-xr-x.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Supertramp - Even in the Quietest Moments.../
drwxr-xr-x.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Supertramp - "...Famous Last Words..."/
drwxr-xr-x.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Supertramp - Free as a Bird/
drwxr-xr-x.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Supertramp - Indelibly Stamped/
drwxr-xr-x.   4 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Supertramp - Paris/
drwxr-xr-x.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Supertramp - Slow Motion/
drwxrwxrwx.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Jun 26 03:51 Supertramp - Some Things Never Change/
drwxr-xr-x.   2 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Supertramp - Supertramp/
drwxr-xr-x.   3 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 The Very Best Of Supertramp/
[chuck@lizum Supertramp.106]$  ll *Paris*
total 16
drwxr-xr-x.  4 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 ./
drwxr-xr-x. 16 chuck chuck 4096 Jun 26 03:47 ../
drwxr-xr-x.  2 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Disc 1/
drwxr-xr-x.  2 chuck chuck 4096 Mar  6  2018 Disc 2/
[chuck@lizum Supertramp.107]$ ll *Paris*/*1
total 271076
drwxr-xr-x. 2 chuck chuck     4096 Mar  6  2018 ./
drwxr-xr-x. 4 chuck chuck     4096 Mar  6  2018 ../
-rw-r--r--. 1 chuck chuck  9298686 Jun 20  2016 01 - School.mp3
-rw-r--r--. 1 chuck chuck 40037165 Mar 10  2017 02 - Ain't Nobody but Me.flac
-rw-r--r--. 1 chuck chuck 28612129 Mar 10  2017 03 - The Logical Song.flac
-rw-r--r--. 1 chuck chuck 50091727 Mar 10  2017 04 - Bloody Well Right.flac
-rw-r--r--. 1 chuck chuck 20856661 Mar 10  2017 05 - Breakfast in America.flac
-rw-r--r--. 1 chuck chuck 24901328 Mar 10  2017 06 - You Started Laughing.flac
-rw-r--r--. 1 chuck chuck 47753291 Mar 10  2017 07 - Hide in Your Shell.flac
-rw-r--r--. 1 chuck chuck 48401522 Mar 10  2017 08 - From Now On.flac
-rw-r--r--. 1 chuck chuck   416363 Mar  7  2017 cover.jpg
[chuck@lizum Supertramp.108]$

Well, until server version 1.17 the tracknumber wasn’t required.

Do you need assistance with renaming formats?

No, thanks.

I won’t use tracknumbers for these kind of tracks, because I want that the tracks in those albums are sorted by name, alphabetically. And when I add tracks to those albums (e.g. when I get further remixes of “Always On My Mind” by the Pet Shop Boys), I still want that they are sorted alphabetically, and not by a “virtual” tracknumber.

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The new Plex Music is a gigantic step backwards with local metadata, forcing track numbers where there are none is another silly requirement that none of the other music library managers have.

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Then perhaps the better option here is to put your music elsewhere?

While it may be nice to have it all on one place, everyone has different needs.
This usage case is one of those exceptions.

Since there are other music managers out there, it seems there are quite a number of different use cases where each does something a little bit different than the other.

Not a bug. At this point, this is a design choice by the Product and Engineering teams.

Chuck, I realise that the dev team has the right to make their own decisions, but from the user experience, having Plex lose functionality that was there before (the previous scanner worked fine with albums without track numbers), and behave different from all other music libraries out there is not a step forward.

If Plex tomorrow makes the design decision to sort Artists only by reverse birth date (or something), that’s not a bug if you deliberately designed it as such, but users will complain and flag it as such.

Already Emby is better (though not perfect) for music in terms of metadata, but I want to stay with Plex as I have a life pass, the apps are better and Plex works through CG-NAT. But this new “Plex Music” scanner certainly isn’t helping the case. I can accept it if there’s recognition that these new metadata problems are bugs or design mistakes and will be fixed in due time, but if Plex permanently chooses not to work correctly with compilations (as in, how users expect it to, and how Plex used to, and how the rest of the industry does it), that’s a serious issue.

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Why did Plex decide to make this a requirement now ? it’s going to take for ever to tag all my Music files now, what is the benefit to users by enforcing this requirements now ?

Dear Plex Team. This worked for years! Now you tell me that because of a single decision of the product Team, I have to rename 100’000 Files?!
Sorry guys but even if you not consider this a bug, form a users perspective this is a major bug!

A disappointed customer

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I would like to show you a manual workaround as this seems not to happen very often (I had the same problems with some audiobooks).

I followed the instructions here:
https://support.plex.tv/articles/201018248-merge-or-split-items/

I merged all “seperate” albums to one single albums where the tracks are now shown without tracknumber and in alphabetical order. I am quite sure this will help most of you out there.

Please find a screenshot for reference how it will look like after the merge.

Best, Jo

I agree that Artist, Song Title and Album are mandatory fields, but track number is just plain silly. Not grouping albums because of a missing track number is a bug.

Does this mean, for example, if there’s a remix of a particular song (meaning, it’s not actually ON the album originally and therefore, has no track number), that everytime a scan is done of my library it will set the remix as its own separate album - even if I merge the track with the existing album’s track?

If you merge the remix track manually to the album, a new scan won’t change this. But you have to merge it manually!

If you re-scan your whole library, the remix track won’t be assigned to the album, although the artist-tag and the album-tag are the same.

Adding my support to this request - I have lots of single tracks by thousands of artists that do not have an album title or track number as they are not on an album. I want them to all be grouped together. Tracks with either the same album name or no album name should be grouped together, irrespective of track number.