Total junk. Read the announcement, thought “nice feature!”, looked at it, laughed, turned it off. The carousel is awful and makes the feature useless to me. As does the fact that Plex fails to categorise about half my content correctly - which wouldn’t be so bad if there was the option to override categorisations. Does anyone with an actual music library consisting of more than a handful of content bother testing these releases?
Wow, you have a rather poor attitude.
That’s nice. No way am I putting that kind of effort into amending every incorrectly categorised single, album, live album etc. when a simple tick box in Plex would do nicely. This feature is just junk for larger libraries as it stands.
Yes I do. I’ve just fired up Plex to see that it’s overwritten the genre tags that I’d spent ridiculous amounts of time making sure were correct on every album in my large music library. As far as I can work out so far, the only way to rectify this is to refresh metadata manually against every single artist once local metadata is toggled back on. Refreshing metadata against the entire music library doesn’t seem to work. So yeah, waking up to discover that I have a huge piece of work in front of me to put my music library back in its original condition because my library was switched to on-line metadata against my will… well yeah, that does give me a bit of a poor attitude and make me wonder if this stuff is actually tested by anyone with large music libraries.
Also, if the feature doesn’t accurately categorise a large volume of my content, making it worthless to the point that I have to turn it off (and I love the idea, so it’s not like I’m not in favour of the change in principle), then from my point of view, it’s total junk. There is literally no way I can leverage this to make it useful or useable. If the option was there to override categorisations, then fair enough. But it’s not. So this feature is unusable.
Personally, I think this new feature is a great improvement. Almost a week in and I’ve only come across one artist where the releases weren’t grouped correctly and a Refresh Metadata on the artist sorted it.
I do hope there are plans to update the non-Plexamp clients for consistency as the release groups other than standard album are listed:
[Cover art]
Release group artist
Release group title
And should be:
[Cover art]
Release group title
YYYY
I think a lot will depend on the size of your library and how mainstream your musical tastes are. I’m seeing a LOT of mismatches. All it requires is the ability to set your own toggle, and also disable that carousel so I can actually see all my music, and it’d be great. Until then, I’ll be leaving it turned off.
ok thanks @elan that did it. Its working somwwhat.
No way to edit wronly classified albums?
Not natively within Plex (yet?). For now though, it’s possible to edit at the metadata source. I put up a quick guide if you’re interested
I can understand that would be annoying, and it shouldn’t happen. Help me understand:
- Is your library new or upgraded? (i.e. no Upgrade option available)
- Do you have “Prefer local metadata” set?
- What is your source for genres set to (as seen below)?
If you “Refresh All Metadata” that is the same as refreshing metadata for each artist individually. This also happens at night automatically for a fraction of artists per night. However, this leads me to believe that you might be in a non-upgraded or semi-upgraded library.
That might be part of an upgrade, if your library settings aren’t properly set up for your liking.
Help us understand what went wrong.
Thanks for this info.
Ok so after refreshing data things got better but not perfect, so i signed up to music brainz and made a new entry where one didnt exist. Ho long does it take for that to be available to Plex?
According to Simon‘s guide this will depend on if your addition/change requires a review on MB… this will mostly apply to changes. The review stage is set to 7 days during which other MB users can object (can be shortened if there’s sufficient users actively approving the change).
Once the data is actually live/set on MB it’ll usually take Plex 1-2 days to pick it up.
I LOVE the idea of this feature. It’s great for bands and artists with unwieldy discographies (I have several), but it really needs the option to manually edit release types within Plex for it to truly be useful.
The feature is great. I’m on board of making it editable. I have a bunch of live bootlegs that aren’t categorised as ‘Live’.
I ran into this as well. The classic concept of “unofficial official” bootlegs that were released on CD’s, even have metadata in Plex sometimes, but are listed as regular albums instead of live. It’s an understandable error; I’d just like to be able to correct it.
While I see how it might seem more convenient to simply overwrite this locally… what’s wrong with correcting it at its source? I know that “bootlegs” can be a bit tricky – especially if they’re only labeled as such but are regular recordings for an official concert.
Did some of those fixes myself for a few shows I’ve seen and for which I got the some “memorabilia” (=their “bootlegs”).
Fixing it at its source will make that fix available to all other users (while you will certainly benefit from fixes others have been doing since this feature was released – I’ve just refreshed my library before doing some more fixes on musicbrainz and was positively surprised to find most of my remaining mis-categorized items to be fixed )
Edit: THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO’S BEEN CONTRIBUTING … loving it
Just my personal 2 ct.
Unfortunately in many cases it’s using local tags for these albums and there is no online source. I was just looking through my various “unofficial” bootlegs and a number of them are not available at the data source. Otherwise I’d be completely onboard the time to fix it once at the source (I’ve done that at TVDB before, for the same reason).
It seems to be a non-starter in this situation. In my case, my live albums have a genre of “live”, and I wish Plex would just read that tag and move it into the live albums section. Of course, that’s not consistent among other users, so I don’t know if there’s a graceful option. It would be really nice though if we could just add a tag to the file itself that Plex could read. It gives users a pretty easy fix for albums that don’t have data at the source.
Do you happen to know what ID3 tag is used in your files to tag them as “live” albums?
I’m literally using “Live” as the genre on my Live albums. I know it means I lose the actual genre info, but I’ve found that I like having my live albums separate from the studio recordings, so I decided it was acceptable. The rare mixed studio/live albums are handled on a case-by-case basis.
It’s possible there’s a good “lesser used” tag that Plex could co-opt for this purpose, and leave the genre tag intact. It’s a little out of my expertise since I mainly focus on the “big” tags. Users could theoretically also just add a [Live], [Single], [Compilation] tag in the folder name, of course. Seems like would be some straightforward solutions available beyond editing inside Plex, if that is desired.
(A random note that I’m really happy with this new feature overall, in fact I now need to fix the tags for a few of my artists because it used to be a pain to find their albums mixed among 30 singles. So none of this is a real complaint, just a goal to fix the small stuff.)