New Player Removes Information Overlay

You only need to dig into the menus to activate it, after that, it’ll appear every time the HUD is visible, like the old one. :slight_smile:

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So I figured I’d give the latest beta version a go, maybe see how these “Nerd Settings” look. However, I can’t see to be able to select the three-dots options button in the lower right of the new player in order to activate them. I can highlight the mini-player option just next to it, but I can’t highlight/select the options button. :confounded:

Yeah, that’s a bug that’ll be fixed in the next beta :sweat_smile:
I’ll need to follow up on our new Nerd Settings :slight_smile:

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Commenting to prevent this from closing… Still don’t see any option to enable this in my player.

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Nope. A lot of stuff was added recently (including moving Settings to the very bottom - WHY???), but no Nerd Settings.

The nerd stats aren’t out yet, but was just informing that there will be something in future

agreed. I REALLY dislike the new player!! with the old player and orange bar you have a visual representation of exactly where you are in the file as you fast forward, rewind or even hit pause. all of the info you need is visible. the new player gives us nothing! when I fast forward I see a circle with random numbers in it. how do I know where I am in the file? what does 1140 when I’m fast forwarding even mean? the old player is way more useful!!

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Can you guys please stop setting my client to use the new player? It reverts to the new player at least once a week. And the new player fails to play in most cases…

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same here! I’m constantly resetting it back to the old (good) player. I wish we could just opt out of the new player. it’s terrible!!

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The old player (which had plenty of issues) will be going away. It’s better to use the new player and report any issues you find than simply switching to the old player. If we aren’t aware of whatever issue you’re seeing prior to removing the old player, we won’t be able to fix it. :man_shrugging:

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That’s for a quick seek. If you want to seek through a large chunk and see where you are, I’d suggest you pull up the HUD, navigate up to the seekbar, and then you can use that to scroll through, showing time, location, and preview images.

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It’s kinda strange how we all percieve the same thing differently.
I just find navigation on the new player far superior to any Plex app I have used. Well my ATV 4K was pretty awesome too.

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yeah but there are lots of people who aren’t using the new player because it doesn’t do what we need! like I said in one of my posts, when I hit fast forward with the old player I can see exactly where I am in the file in relation to the start and end of the file. the orange bar updates showing me exactly where I am. I don’t need to pull up other menus or do anything extra, I just hit fast forward and everything is there. with the new player, when I hit fast forward I get a circle with random numbers in it. this doesn’t tell me anything! at least give us a visual representation of where we are in the file as we fast forward or rewind. my kids use pause all the time to see how much time is left in the file that they are watching. with the new player you get no information at all! just a circle with random numbers in it. can I ask what the numbers are? when I fast forward, what does 690 or 1140 even mean? are those frames? it’s not seconds or minutes. also, when I hit pause with the new player why doesn’t it show me anything? fix these issues and maybe more people will use the new player.

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Im realy curious what youre seeing.
On my Shield, hit the select button to bring up the controls.
Hit “Up”.
Navigate back or forwards through the timeline and it shows the time you are at of the file. It scrubs forward in 30 seconds increments and backwards in 10 second increments. With VP thumbnails its even better. But the only numbers I see are times.

That may be personal preference I guess. Generally I know I paused it and when i resume I just expect it to resume. I really don’t wanna see menus, overviews, player controls or anything else for simple pause play commands. But Like i said I guess we are all different.

Finally for kicks I just enabled the old player to remind me why I previously abandoned Android-TV in the first place (in favour of the ATV-4K) .
The new player may not be the reason I came back to Android-TV but it’s a major factor in why it’s now the only client I use… and I really loved the ATV 4K (audio capabilites aside).

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this is what I see when I hit fast forward in both players. the image with all of the information is the old player. I’m just hitting fast forward and it works great! the other image with the eyes is the new player. I hit fast forward and I get a circle with random numbers in it. what is that? it’s completely useless!

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That’s the number of seconds you want to move forward - as you must have held it down or hammered it for a while. That look is for quick bumps with the D-Pad, and as you can see will ‘accumulate’. Normally each press is 30 forward and 10 back. <—you have a 4 minute commercial bashing in store - hit right D-Pad 8 times. Done.

If you want to access the scrub/thumbs while seeking - up arrow might do it - to bring up the OSD with the scrub-bar and thumbs if you generate any.

I like the new player.
I have a feeling I’m not going to like Display Information on it, but we’ll have to wait and find out together…

it’s definitely not seconds! as I hold down fast forward the number keeps going up by thousands and when I let go of fast forward it hasn’t moved very far at all. maybe a second?

I think the frustrating thing for me is that what takes 1 click in the old player (I hit fast forward) now takes 3 clicks (select, up, right click) in the new player. I certainly wouldn’t call that an upgrade! I get that not everybody wants it to work like the old player so give us the option to keep the old functionality in the new player. problem solved!

It is seconds - you’re using it wrong.
That view is for quick bumps forward and back when you don’t need an OSD all up in your face. You can see how many seconds it’s gonna go. You don’t hold down anything. You use single presses. Then you release.

Hit right D-Pad twice - 60 shows on the dial and you move forward 60 - like right now.

If you want to ‘Scrub’ hit up arrow (up D-Pad - Twice) and get ‘the scrubber’.

For instance:
You can see Fran Drescher is about to open her mouth and all you know is you want to be at least 30 seconds from here ASAP. Right D-Pad once and those paid fools in the audience are laughing, but you’re not crying.

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Those numbers are seconds, they’re the number of seconds you’ve seeked. It increments in 10s chunks backwards, and 30s chunks forwards. As for the HUD not appearing when you do that, consider the scenario where you’re watching something with subtitles, and missed something, so want to seek back 10 seconds to read it again. If the HUD appeared, then it would obscure the subtitles, and you’d need to go back even further so the HUD could time out. Or seeking through ads in a DVR recording, where you want to quickly jump through the commercials (for me, it’s around 180 seconds per ad break), so you can jump around without the HUD covering the screen.

As has been suggested several times in this thread, if you want to do large seeks, bring up the HUD, navigate up to the seekbar, and use that to go forward and back, which shows the progression, preview images, and the time.

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Where are you guys seeing these “thumbnails”/“preview images” when seeking with the new player? I’m not seeing anything to that effect on my Nvidia Shield.

My biggest complaint with the new player is the ugly background that displays just before it starts playing a file and how it shows the synopsis for “next episode” at the very top of the screen instead of at the bottom like the old players does.