Not Allowed to use Hetzner

How do you upload your stuff to hetzner? Should be taking ages?!

Or are there some other “benefits” on your server? …

I didn’t saw more bogus arguments…

First of wall, why should I post if a lot of people before me already say what I would like to say?
Why I would login to just click on stupid like button?
But your post triggered even me…

Yes, It does affect me to, but I already expected that (and way more) happen sooner or later, so already was having both plex and jellyfin installed for months…

Now I will have one more argument to my family/friends/others that any cloud connected service one way or another will turn into ■■■■ as long as there is even a slight connection to cloud (especially if auth is on cloud side).
Not talking only about plex, all that cloud IoT and other, Unifi showed us multiple times already how you can buy a device that will turn into doorstop few years later for no good reason…

I will not move my hetzner server home just because of this …, plex is the least needed service on it, but I probably will have to kiss goodbye to plexamp (as that is still something I use daily) and look for alternative (or go back to use spotify/ytm for short while…)

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It did take quite a while. However, I can let that run slowly overnight, when I want to then watch media on it, it’s super-fast on hetzner and much (much) faster downstream internet.

Blocking all these dozens of plex pass users because of their lazyness in dealing with the problem is pathetic.

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Why do you think that’s yours or anybody else’s business? If we’re using the software in the way it was intended, it doesn’t matter what network it’s running on.

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What does it matter if uploading stuff takes seconds, minutes, hours or even days?
What matter is that I can access it fast and reliably.

Not only that, it also helps with the 3-2-1 strategy, why the F… would I have my private photos/videos/and other only in one location, what If my home would get flooded or burnd?

And why do I need to build my home lab just for f… plex? Homelab may be cheaper in long run, but the time you spend working on it cost way more, and I don’t have TB of data that would make it worth.

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Sure, I made a couple of hundred thousand from Plex Share, and I know some other people who did the same; this restriction doesn’t work; streaming service has limitations, and that started a whole new industry of services that can bypass those I’m sure someone will come up for hetzner too, just because plex going to block hetzner doesn’t mean me. Others will stop everything; we will use something else and devise some creative way. No one cares about filthy pirates. To all the bootlickers that think they are safe, well, you guys might be safe for now; sooner or later, they will come after things you like. They can’t grow much with self-hosted things; you will just pay $5 , and they know it. That’s why they are focusing more on ad-supported content; it won’t happen overnight; they will get rid of the stuff you like or care about one by one.

tl;dr The fact that Google and Dropbox discontinued their unlimited storage is a hard enough hit to the Plex share market that Plex doesn’t need to scare away all their legitimate Hetzner customers

This action is clearly targeted against people or organisations that sell access to a Plex Server with huge amounts of movies and TV shows on them. However, they not only relied on Hetzner to supply a cheap VPS but more importantly there were options to have basically unlimited cloud storage at Google and Dropbox. Quite frankly I don’t understand how they ever thought this was a good idea, because this screams to be exploited. Anyway, after this was very lucrative for the plex share sellers for some time, both Google and Dropbox discontinued their unlimited storage. Dropbox still has a very generous transition period of over 12 months, but at some point there will be no more unlimited storage flatrate. In my opinion this will be the big hit to these sellers, because renting or buying the storage that is required for a services that aims to have “everything” is ridiculously expensive. And if the plex share doesn’t have everything you want you can stick with the legal streaming services since they still have the smoother viewing experience than Plex. After the end of unlimited storage the plex share market will shrink dramatically and it will concentrate on a few players, because this will only be feasible if you have lots of subscibers. How are 10, 20 or even 50 subscribers going to cover the cost of a few hundred TB of storage? So these small providers will go away to look for other easy ways to make money outside of the Plex realm. And even though playing whack-a-mole isn’t fun it is way easier against a smaller number of bad actors and Plex will be able to retain their customers that use Hetzner without selling access in order to make profit.

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Really only 480p? I have the same upload and was able to stream at 1080p while casting to my friends TV.

Wow, your media must have terrible bitrates.

Nope. It was 5k. Looked really good to us :person_shrugging:

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This is a horrible decision that will affect a ton of innocent users! I hope you all realize the implications of this precedent. What’s to stop them from banning other hosting providers in the future and taking more control of your own media server… It’s time to move to one of the alternatives, like Jellyfin or Emby.

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I’m definitely not happy with this move I’ve been really happy with my hetzner server using the igpu for transcoding is the best thing and has been really beneficial for smaller or older devices and for mobile network when out it is great too because it’s fast and quality is good, having to move to another hosting provider means losing igpu and cpu transcoding just isn’t comparable, I can’t host at home because it is an old apartment with no space for a system to host it and internet is not able to either nor could I pay for an at home system with igpu at a cheap enough price on a set retirement income, monthly subscription at low cost is the only option

I hope they reconsider because this move is too far reaching there’s only 2 accounts on my server and it has always been this way, there are many ways to restrict plex share selling if that is the concern

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When the subject of plex shares was raised in the Fireside Chat we got

Banning a whole host is not exactly what I would call happening in the shadows

Well it does seem to be impacting regular users, so I guess that means your doing it wrong.

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“According to Plex” doesn’t matter to me.

It’s easy, it’s in the ToS, point 1:

you may enable members of your immediate family, for whom you will be responsible (each, an “Authorized User(s)”), to access and use the Plex Solution so long as all such use remains in compliance with this TOS

It’s clearly written “members of your immediate family”; nowhere they talk about friends.

Cool! You found it! Maybe they should update the language on their own website to reflect that

They do on the support page:

You can easily share one or more of your libraries with family or friends. The ability to share is intended for use with family and close, personal friends.

so maybe they need to change that…

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You can save your watch data to Trakt for example. There are a frew tools which make it pretty easy.

From what I can tell, both Plex Pass and Trakt VIP are required.

But I have more or less manually imported everything into Jellyfin now; also rediscovered some old shows I stopped watching and am now continuing, so it worked out for me.

Few users breaking the ToS, Plex ban ~2.4 million IP addresses.
What the hell are you lot smoking?

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