How are people uploading all this legal media to a remote datacenter if their internet is crap at home?
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For me personally it was because the speed just wasnāt good enough to stream in real time, say it was an hour long piece of media but it took two hours to upload, it would just be constant buffering unless low quality and transcoding was selected.
But I could leave it constantly moving my content to the Hetzner server overnight and after a few months everything was over there.
Also I used an online backup service, I think it was Livedrive, they used to let you send a physical hard drive to them for the initial backup in the UK because upload speeds were crap for most people, I then went to Livedrive from the Hetzner server and just grabbed allot of the files in no time at all.
Plex is going to shoot themselves in the foot and anoint Jellyfin if they start banning shared server providers. Most American ISPs have strict bandwidth usage caps (not to mention horrible asynchronous upload speeds), which is why many who are using Plex for itās intended use (to share with friends and family) also pay for remote hosting. If my host is banned, I will absolutely be switching to Jellyfin. That will be the last straw.
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They said the ban was only next month? You canāt claim now a new server with hetzner.
Connections from those servers will be refused next month. So you will not be able to authenticate and use Plex services, I.E. any Plex server hosted there will be dead in the water. I donāt believe that they mentioned banning new registrations of Plex servers from Hetzner effective immediately, but I would not put it past them.
They are already blocking it, I claimed with VPN and worked fine
Slowly, overnight. Not obvious?
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i think the more interesting question is what is plex vetting process for this? human or AI? are plex literally creeping peoples accounts and then based on feelings banning people they suspect?
as per reddit some none Hetzner users are getting hit with this BS and @drzoidberg33 claims that humans can make errors sometimes, which only leads to more questions which he has no responded to. A copy/paste of a good question on thereā¦
What is the varificafion process for this? Are Plex creeping peoples account and in this case, are humans manually combing through accounts to see if they suspect something? What privacy controls are in place for this process?
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Itās not that interesting a question. Thereās nothing to suggest they doing any āvettingā at all. All indications are they are just blocking an IP range belonging to the hosting company (which strongly appears to be Hetzner) which hosts all the TOS violating servers.
Has there been anyone whoās received a notice who has never had a server on Hetzner? Iāve not seen anything from anyone who doesnāt either have a server on Hetzner now or had one in the past which theyāve since moved to their home or another hosting company.
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That is not correct, @drzoidberg33 said the following on reddit āThere is always a human verifying these accounts closures, humans have been known to make mistakes from time to time so if you do believe this is in error DM me the Plex account that was banned and Iāll pass it along to the right folks.ā Reddit - Dive into anything
yes in the linked quote above, others has responded with similar experiences in that thread.
Thatās an account closure. Which is a different thing to what this thread is about.
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I donāt see any point in me asking any further questions, or anyone else for that matter. Five days, 500 posts, and ONE comment from a Plex Employee. That tells us all we need to know.
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They are working on making it mandatory to claim a server. I suspect after they do this they wont ban hetzner, but thatās just my guessā¦
My thoughts exactly. These super large media servers with hundreds or thousands of movies and tv shows would take an unbelievable amount of time to upload. If someone tried uploading just 4tb worth of data on a 10 mbps connection, that would take 1 month 9 days 17 hours 20 minutes 37 seconds. And thatās with no interruptions.
People blaming Plex should really be blaming the idiots selling Plex servers for money. They are the real reason this is happening and likely why PlexCloud didnāt last.
How? Itās called rsync. Satisfied?
I donāt know why this question pops up so frequently here but the crap internet is the main reason to use a datacenter in the first place. Look, it doesnāt really matter how long it takes to upload, the upload matters when I or my family want to watch something when weāre not at home. Iām perfectly aware you know this, too and just want to stir something up here.
If I have to keep a computer running for 2 days to upload something Iāll do it. I just donāt want to have it running 24/7/365 for a crap experience.
By the way, things like curl and wget exist, tooā¦ directly on a computer which happens to be in a big building with adequate cooling and a really nice connection to the world.
Just to make it clear: F*** these āresellersā, I have zero sympathy for them and plex has every right to hunt them down, but this ātake no prisonersā path they are following is not very well thought out.
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Well see the thing is when people are claiming they are uploading all their media on a seriously slow connection but then run all the *arr apps and such itās kinda hard to believe the BS.
Can you imagine how many Plex servers there are with ports open for automated torrentingā¦ crazy huh. Especially on Hetzcrap.
arr.
So even if an individual isnāt a reseller but happens to host on Hetzcrap AND ALSO has open ports related to *arr apps then itās a high probability that itās a TOS violation. No?
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The process has been widely used for many years by many businesses. It is hardly a new approach to the issue Plex has encountered.
Iām not suggesting it is necessarily efficacious nor well targeted.
In other words, you asked a question, you were given an answer that doesnāt fit with your preconceptions, so it must be lies. Right?
Do the ToS prohibit open ports and *arr stuff?
In other news, there are two reports on Reddit from two people saying they received an email telling them their Plex account was being resold for profit and that it was now disabled.
So all in all it appears either the copyright mafia has leaned heavily on Plex or Plex are looking into more funding of some sort and investors want a more robust attitude towards illegal usersā¦ or something along those lines. At least thatās my interpretation of these sudden moves.
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There is a seriously high probability itās lies. Iāve read log files from hundreds of users on here over the years helping with problems and the users who have release group tags in their filenames is nearly 100%.
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I think itās pretty much without question to be something along those lines. But the individual account bans/suspensions arenāt a new thing, you can find examples dating back years with a quick Google search.
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