Just to give some of my own thoughts:
While I’m not personally affected, I highly doubt that this will help anything against illegal paid Plex servers. I’ve already heard from working workarounds which aren’t even that hard to set up. This will most likely just punish innocent people that don’t have the bandwidth to host their Plex server local and want to share it with family and friends.
A better approach would be to limit the users a Plex server can have, this is pretty much the only way to deal with paid Plex servers. A kinda similar approach what Emby does, you pay for devices (25 by default) and can upgrade to max. 75 devices. Let’s make that users instead of devices and that would pretty much solve it.
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Because of that bullshit policy that will achieve anything in the long run against illegal paid plex servers, I can no longer use Plexamp!
I will not run a server at home to host plex just for plexamp, so I have only 2 solution left
- go back spotify/youtube music/deezer/other music solutions and only listen to stuff that they want/allow me to listen to, but they all did suggest the same songs over and over until you puke if listen for longer time because of their BS algorithms …
- copy all my music directly to all my devices and listen locally, losing the ability to centrally manage/organize music and other.
Both solution sucks.
I did try to use jellyfin with Finamp, but the current state is painful, a little bit of network slowdown due to bad reception and you wait from 5s to 30s to get next song… so it’s a no-go.
Maybe someone have good solution (maybe even better than plexamp)?
Thanks
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If your other option is buying Spotify etc a home server may be the better option. If all you care about is Plexamp, the junkiest slowest lowest-power kind of home PC can be a Plex server for that.
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Yes, exactly. I wrote it also some time ago here. They do NOT care anymore about the LAGACY USERS. They will switch the business model to new services (I doubt if they succeed though) and they are trying to get rid of LEGACY USERS. That’s clear.
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Do not bother. They will switch all the services off sooner or letare that we loved. They are building new plex model similar do Disney or Neflix. Step by step they will make legacy users life with Plex more difficult and useless. They would probably shut us all down but they do not want to show user base going down before going for new - future - users for subcription model services. It’s time to say goodbye to Plex as we know it. They did not make it.
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Navidrome. It is SubSonic compatible so you can choose the app you want to use. Or in IOS you can just use the PWA (Progressive Web App).
To be honest Plexamp is really good, so it will be a downgrade, you have to decide if it is good enough for you.
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Sure, but you can also just allow one (or limit it to a reasonable number) Plex server per IP (There usually is no reason to run more than one imo).
And if they need multiple servers with multiple IPs then at least you give them more effort for a workaround then just a simple proxy to disguise just one Hetzner IP. In that case they would either pay for multiple servers (which might be not as profitable anymore) or the need of multiple IPs for every Plex server on the same host to disguise the real IP.
A solution that is annoying to mostly resellers is always better than one that hurts a lot of innocent people (which is the case right now). And not like the current solution would help against resellers anyway. But a bad “solution” is better than no solution, I guess?
So you want to kill my (home) backup server? Not appreciated.
I no longer care about plexamp, I just point my dissatisfaction, as I did in past use deezer, switch to spotify, switch to youtube music, and now for last 3 years I was using plexamp with my local music, and now because of this BS they just pushed me to switch to some different player/solution for my local music.
Plexamp was not without it’s flaws, but over last 3 years I did make a flow around it that did more or less work for me, but I was looking for something else for some time as I saw where plex is heading (when they introduced the streaming videos), so I already switched to jellyfin year ago and I still happily run it on my hetzner box without issues.
So I rather restart my spotify subscription and/or invest time for looking/implementing even better solution for local media than invest time to build home lab that I don’t want and don’t need at home. And yes, it’s not that much of an issue to buy and run some low power pc with plex for music at home, but I refuse to invest even a second more of my time to f… with plex BS.
I already tried to recreate the flow on jellyfin, and I’m listening to music using it, but the mobile player is not great, I just found few good looking one to test (like symfonium), but the core of jellyfin is still lacking in features for music (like for desktop playback), so I will probably try Navidrome next (Thanks @Havohej ).
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One of the things that’s odd about how Plex has gone about this is: there are new users installing Plex all the time. Some of these are likely to be planning to install on Hetzner.
Since the only communication about this was a single email to existing Hetzner users, these people will have no way of knowing that Plex doesn’t work on Hetzner until they try. And they won’t have any idea why their Plex install isn’t working and will no doubt spend a lot of time trying to figure it out.
Some of this could be solved simply by stating in some prominent place that Plex no longer works on Hetzner IPs. But they haven’t done that. Or even mentioned “Hetzner.”
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Thanks Plex! You`re welcome taking my money and then denying service! I’ll migrate to Jellyfin - like most of your customers. Perfect planning on your end!
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I agree with what you’re saying, but Plex has no incentive to actually report or advertise defects in their software. Is there any marketing law they’re violating by refusing to do so?
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What’s even worse is the attempted censorship by closing the thread immediately once the Plex team member realizes what’s going on.
“Thread closed, check your private messages, do not reply.”
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I had my post censored like 10 minutes after i posted it.
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Plex… excuse me?!
How dare you start blocking access to my own personal server I pay for each month in order to run plex and a bunch of other apps.
Since when did you start policing people’s use of your platform? I am a plex-pass lifetime member from over 10 years ago when you were a decent company with decent ambitions. It saddens me to see you acting in this way towards your loyal fan base. Jeez - I even wear a Plex cap!
I would like to know exactly why this action was taken and whether or not, if I move my plex server to another hosting provider, you’re likely to start blocking those IP addresses also?
At the end of the day plex is something we install on our own servers - be that at home or elsewhere - it’s 100% not your job to police access by blocking IP addresses.
What has happened to your company, exactly?
Nothing short of shameful. You should be embarrassed about this.
James.
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And that makes Plex’s actions acceptable? What are you talking about?
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When Plex announced this change they made it clear that they would not be discussing the details of why and how it happened nor what may happen next. It seems to be quite possible that other hosts may be blocked later. We just do not know the details and we never will. No one can give you the reassurance you seek.
Somehow I can still access my library through the desktop app (not web) but not through the android app. Is there any specific reason why only mobile clients are blocked or am I missing something?
Can you play anything?
