I saw the new Nvidia Shield news, and I am super excited for this! Looks like it has hardware accelerated transcode for x.264 and x.265 which is amazing. My question is how many concurrent streams can this box handle in 1080p? Currently my i7-2600k will do about 5-7 1080p transcodes at once for x.264 under Linux Mint cinnamon. If this will do at least 5 I would replace my current system in a heartbeat,
They said 2 x 1080p but not sure on the bitrate, I would assume that’s full BR rips. No real figures given on Direct Plays but I’m going to guess easily 4.
They only said H.264 AFAIK, I don’t know about H.265.
Yes, it does HEVC too.
I looked at https://blog.plex.tv/2016/06/09/nvidia-shield-you-complete-us which just say “multiple streams” with no actual numbers. It also states H.264, MPEG2 and HEVC and HEVC is x265.
@boboki said:
I looked at https://blog.plex.tv/2016/06/09/nvidia-shield-you-complete-us which just say “multiple streams” with no actual numbers. It also states H.264, MPEG2 and HEVC and HEVC is x265.
We talked with the NVidia Shield TV team last night - they told us the number of streams it should handle.
Wondering how this will handle having the files remotely on a NAS, playing a file locally, and streaming another file. It will be fun to test, can’t wait.
That’s the big question for me…how many 1080p HEVC streams can it do simultaneously? My i5-3570s struggles to do two at the same time (transcoder set to higher quality). If the shield can do two simultaneously…I might pull the trigger. I’ve been itching to try it as a client for the HD-Audio passthrough…and being able to to decommission the dedicated desktop computer would be a nice bonus. The power-savings alone would add-up over time.
@DFury said:
That’s the big question for me…how many 1080p HEVC streams can it do simultaneously? My i5-3570s struggles to do two at the same time (transcoder set to higher quality). If the shield can do two simultaneously…I might pull the trigger. I’ve been itching to try it as a client for the HD-Audio passthrough…and being able to to decommission the dedicated desktop computer would be a nice bonus. The power-savings alone would add-up over time.
They said 2 - 3 8Mb H.264 streams for what it’s worth. TrueHD / Atmos on the way. I’m sure 8 / 24bit PCM support will be coming too.
Yeah, and that would be great…b> @danjames92 said:
@DFury said:
That’s the big question for me…how many 1080p HEVC streams can it do simultaneously? My i5-3570s struggles to do two at the same time (transcoder set to higher quality). If the shield can do two simultaneously…I might pull the trigger. I’ve been itching to try it as a client for the HD-Audio passthrough…and being able to to decommission the dedicated desktop computer would be a nice bonus. The power-savings alone would add-up over time.They said 2 - 3 8Mb H.264 streams for what it’s worth. TrueHD / Atmos on the way. I’m sure 8 / 24bit PCM support will be coming too.
Yeah, and that would be great…but (at least on my Windows server) HEVC requires significantly more processing power to transcode. What I don’t know, however, is if the hardware-acceleration in the Shield enables it to do H265 at essentially the same rate as H264.
What I really wonder is which part of the Tegra X1 does the job for transcoding? 256 of Maxwell CUDA cores or 4 of the ARM CPU cores?
@kegobeer-plex said:
@boboki said:
I looked at https://blog.plex.tv/2016/06/09/nvidia-shield-you-complete-us which just say “multiple streams” with no actual numbers. It also states H.264, MPEG2 and HEVC and HEVC is x265.We talked with the NVidia Shield TV team last night - they told us the number of streams it should handle.
All due respect, that’s a pretty worthless answer. What was the answer?
@DFury said:
Yeah, and that would be great…b> @danjames92 said:@DFury said:
That’s the big question for me…how many 1080p HEVC streams can it do simultaneously? My i5-3570s struggles to do two at the same time (transcoder set to higher quality). If the shield can do two simultaneously…I might pull the trigger. I’ve been itching to try it as a client for the HD-Audio passthrough…and being able to to decommission the dedicated desktop computer would be a nice bonus. The power-savings alone would add-up over time.They said 2 - 3 8Mb H.264 streams for what it’s worth. TrueHD / Atmos on the way. I’m sure 8 / 24bit PCM support will be coming too.
Yeah, and that would be great…but (at least on my Windows server) HEVC requires significantly more processing power to transcode. What I don’t know, however, is if the hardware-acceleration in the Shield enables it to do H265 at essentially the same rate as H264.
I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
@KarlDag said:
@kegobeer-plex said:
@boboki said:
I looked at https://blog.plex.tv/2016/06/09/nvidia-shield-you-complete-us which just say “multiple streams” with no actual numbers. It also states H.264, MPEG2 and HEVC and HEVC is x265.We talked with the NVidia Shield TV team last night - they told us the number of streams it should handle.
All due respect, that’s a pretty worthless answer. What was the answer?
The answer was given a couple of posts above mine, and that answer was questioned, and I explained that the team told us. Read the entire thread.
Answer was 2-3 8MB H.264 streams, which unfortunatly for me is about 2-3 too few to replace my media center with
That said, this is still AMAZING performance for $300, and one of these and a synology and you have a pretty nice media center for under $1000. Keep up the great work guys, now I hope Nvidia puts out a dual cpu model of this, as that would probably meet what I need
@kegobeer-plex said:
@KarlDag said:
@kegobeer-plex said:
@boboki said:
I looked at https://blog.plex.tv/2016/06/09/nvidia-shield-you-complete-us which just say “multiple streams” with no actual numbers. It also states H.264, MPEG2 and HEVC and HEVC is x265.We talked with the NVidia Shield TV team last night - they told us the number of streams it should handle.
All due respect, that’s a pretty worthless answer. What was the answer?
The answer was given a couple of posts above mine, and that answer was questioned, and I explained that the team told us. Read the entire thread.
I did, but it wasnt clear to me that you were supporting @danjames92 's answer… and since there’s no indication wether he is a dev for Plex or just a user like I am (for what it’s worth, I don’t know for sure who you are either), it’s hard to make my answer as a certainty.
Either way, thank you guys.
@boboki said:
Answer was 2-3 8MB H.264 streams, which unfortunatly for me is about 2-3 too few to replace my media center withThat said, this is still AMAZING performance for $300, and one of these and a synology and you have a pretty nice media center for under $1000. Keep up the great work guys, now I hope Nvidia puts out a dual cpu model of this, as that would probably meet what I need
Keep in mind 2-3 streams is transcodes, it can probably support direct plays on top of that.
I participated in an NVidia Shield TV pre-release meeting, and I think danjames92 was there as well. That’s where I got my information. I’m part of the Shield TV insider program, so any time I get info and I’m allowed to pass it on, I’ll be sharing with the community.
what are the chances this runs on something other than 32400? I would love this as a “personal” media server while my friends and family remain on my old server. Might help split my traffic up some too, but I would still want to access Plex remotely and as far as I know thats not possible from 2 devices on the same network.
@don.alcombright said:
what are the chances this runs on something other than 32400? I would love this as a “personal” media server while my friends and family remain on my old server. Might help split my traffic up some too, but I would still want to access Plex remotely and as far as I know thats not possible from 2 devices on the same network.
That is not correct. You can run as many servers as you want within one network. You have to make sure though that all of them are signed in to plex.tv. You may also have to make portforwards manually for all of them. Each server getting a unique external port number of course.
https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/200931138-Troubleshooting-Remote-Access
(scroll down to ‘Manual Port Forwards for Multiple Servers’)
@don.alcombright said:
what are the chances this runs on something other than 32400? I would love this as a “personal” media server while my friends and family remain on my old server. Might help split my traffic up some too, but I would still want to access Plex remotely and as far as I know thats not possible from 2 devices on the same network.
Similar idea here, I’m toying with the idea of having 1 server for movies and 1 for TV Shows, or something similar. Just wish this could be done transparently for my users, not requiring them to switch from one to the other manually. I think search now supports multiple servers, no?
@KarlDag said:
@kegobeer-plex said:
@KarlDag said:
@kegobeer-plex said:
@boboki said:
I looked at https://blog.plex.tv/2016/06/09/nvidia-shield-you-complete-us which just say “multiple streams” with no actual numbers. It also states H.264, MPEG2 and HEVC and HEVC is x265.We talked with the NVidia Shield TV team last night - they told us the number of streams it should handle.
All due respect, that’s a pretty worthless answer. What was the answer?
The answer was given a couple of posts above mine, and that answer was questioned, and I explained that the team told us. Read the entire thread.
I did, but it wasnt clear to me that you were supporting @danjames92 's answer… and since there’s no indication wether he is a dev for Plex or just a user like I am (for what it’s worth, I don’t know for sure who you are either), it’s hard to make my answer as a certainty.
Either way, thank you guys.
@boboki said:
Answer was 2-3 8MB H.264 streams, which unfortunatly for me is about 2-3 too few to replace my media center withThat said, this is still AMAZING performance for $300, and one of these and a synology and you have a pretty nice media center for under $1000. Keep up the great work guys, now I hope Nvidia puts out a dual cpu model of this, as that would probably meet what I need
Keep in mind 2-3 streams is transcodes, it can probably support direct plays on top of that.
I am user just like you.