(ONLY FOR SERIOUS TESTERS) Bleeding Edge Testing Releases

@stefanvanruiten said:

@reddwarfcrew said:

@stefanvanruiten said:
PKC on kodi 17 with the new brilliant default skin, for me, blows everything NewPlex is putting out lately (or rather: isn’t putting out) out of the water. I know it’s a database hack and not supported by either Kodi or Plex but it works like a charm and at last I have actual control over my subtitles:)

I played with PKC over the weekend using both the default and various configs of Titan. It’s impressive how it works, but for me the PfK addon still wins… maybe I need to play more?

If they could make PfK the basis for all apps, with the power of a built in player like kodi so it plays all codecs etc then they’d be on a winner.

I don’t see me moving away from PfK anytime soon.

Ah just wait until Kodi 18 comes along, breaking the add-on without development time to fix it :slight_smile:

Well we don’t have development time right now. Why are you happy at that prospect?

It’s all well and good working on it for 18 months but it’s clear it wasn’t tested as an actual client for bugs.

I can’t quit out and get stuck on a loading screen with 3 dots most of the time forcing me to unplug and potentially damage my emmc memory or wait an eternity for it to eventually quit.

@danjames92 said:

Well we don’t have development time right now. Why are you happy at that prospect

I’m not happy about it at all, it was more of a cynical or i-give-up kinda smile. After killing PHT, PMP and now PFK being integrated into the NewPlex company, I’m kinda expecting development to slow down considerably and Kodi 18 support to be non existent.

@stefanvanruiten said:

@danjames92 said:

Well we don’t have development time right now. Why are you happy at that prospect

I’m not happy about it at all, it was more of a cynical or i-give-up kinda smile. After killing PHT, PMP and now PFK being integrated into the NewPlex company, I’m kinda expecting development to slow down considerably and Kodi 18 support to be non existent.

Please stop calling it new Plex. It was still millions invested Plex before Plex for Kodi was around.

@danjames92 said:

@stefanvanruiten said:

@danjames92 said:

Well we don’t have development time right now. Why are you happy at that prospect

I’m not happy about it at all, it was more of a cynical or i-give-up kinda smile. After killing PHT, PMP and now PFK being integrated into the NewPlex company, I’m kinda expecting development to slow down considerably and Kodi 18 support to be non existent.

Please stop calling it new Plex. It was still millions invested Plex before Plex for Kodi was around.

I know, it has nothing to do with PFK perse, I just feel that lately it’s a different company with different goals then the media enthusiasts creating awesome apps for local kick-ass media consumption regardless of it’s origin.

With all the new collaborations, external investors that want to see revenue of legit sources, the super fancy board, the blogs that are just full of new / cloud products / services and lack of any progress for any of it’s former flagship local media products, I’m fearing that Plex is changing course and - for my use case - not for the better atm. I don’t need live TV or cloud servers.

@stefanvanruiten said:

@danjames92 said:

@stefanvanruiten said:

@danjames92 said:

Well we don’t have development time right now. Why are you happy at that prospect

I’m not happy about it at all, it was more of a cynical or i-give-up kinda smile. After killing PHT, PMP and now PFK being integrated into the NewPlex company, I’m kinda expecting development to slow down considerably and Kodi 18 support to be non existent.

Please stop calling it new Plex. It was still millions invested Plex before Plex for Kodi was around.

I know, it has nothing to do with PFK perse, I just feel that lately it’s a different company with different goals then the media enthusiasts creating awesome apps for local kick-ass media consumption regardless of it’s origin.

With all the new collaborations, external investors that want to see revenue of legit sources, the super fancy board, the blogs that are just full of new / cloud products / services and lack of any progress for any of it’s former flagship local media products, I’m fearing that Plex is changing course and - for my use case - not for the better atm. I don’t need live TV or cloud servers.

So did you look at the PMP preview yet?
Same huge style as PFK. (ie Tile size designed only for the partially sighted.)
Displays the general Plex love for part tiles on the top and bottom of the three rows.
Fifteen clicks to get to the movies section for my own server (but apparently!!! it learns which server you use most, so maybe only ten clicks by next week) :o
Still no theme music for shows.
No embedded yet.

All in all worse than v1.
It’s kinda like PFK but stripped of evidence of common sense.

So for me its wait for PFK to add Theme music and Alexa and pray we get a slider to decrease tile as in PlexWeb.
Or…
Talk nicely to a particular skin dev on Kodi forums about adding an 8x6 wall view on one of his skins for PKC cos the Alexa and theme music parts are already there.

I wonder which one is likely to be achieved first.

@HitsVille said:

@stefanvanruiten said:

@danjames92 said:

@stefanvanruiten said:

@danjames92 said:

Well we don’t have development time right now. Why are you happy at that prospect

I’m not happy about it at all, it was more of a cynical or i-give-up kinda smile. After killing PHT, PMP and now PFK being integrated into the NewPlex company, I’m kinda expecting development to slow down considerably and Kodi 18 support to be non existent.

Please stop calling it new Plex. It was still millions invested Plex before Plex for Kodi was around.

I know, it has nothing to do with PFK perse, I just feel that lately it’s a different company with different goals then the media enthusiasts creating awesome apps for local kick-ass media consumption regardless of it’s origin.

With all the new collaborations, external investors that want to see revenue of legit sources, the super fancy board, the blogs that are just full of new / cloud products / services and lack of any progress for any of it’s former flagship local media products, I’m fearing that Plex is changing course and - for my use case - not for the better atm. I don’t need live TV or cloud servers.

So did you look at the PMP preview yet?
Same huge style as PFK. (ie Tile size designed only for the partially sighted.)
Displays the general Plex love for part tiles on the top and bottom of the three rows.
Fifteen clicks to get to the movies section for my own server (but apparently!!! it learns which server you use most, so maybe only ten clicks by next week) :o
Still no theme music for shows.
No embedded yet.

All in all worse than v1.
It’s kinda like PFK but stripped of evidence of common sense.

So for me its wait for PFK to add Theme music and Alexa and pray we get a slider to decrease tile as in PlexWeb.
Or…
Talk nicely to a particular skin dev on Kodi forums about adding an 8x6 wall view on one of his skins for PKC cos the Alexa and theme music parts are already there.

I wonder which one is likely to be achieved first.

Haven’t tried it yet, just saw it’s release yesterday since I’ve all but abandoned PMP for a while now. I’d like to give it a go just to see what happened there but there still isn’t a Linux release and I’ve switched to Ubuntu since I’m on Kodi with PKC. So just wait for a port at some time perhaps.

In the mean time, I just returned to the Android TV app (Sony Bravia), and while I’ve been using Kodi, they’ve actually changed that app from a complete piece of ■■■■, to an excellent app. Just FYI, if there are any other Android TV users, that started using this app, because the official Plex app was ridiculous

@cbjerg said:
In the mean time, I just returned to the Android TV app (Sony Bravia), and while I’ve been using Kodi, they’ve actually changed that app from a complete piece of ****, to an excellent app. Just FYI, if there are any other Android TV users, that started using this app, because the official Plex app was ridiculous

i have a sony android tv but i still prefer plex for kodi mainly for the ability to download and adjust subtitles delay during playback. Also official plex app needs transcoding sometimes where pfk doesn’t, and i like the pfk ui better

The official Android app actually doesn’t transcode a lot anymore. It has direct played everything I’ve thrown at it the past few days - according to my plexpy.
I will however agree with you on the subtitles point, which is why my Kodi install will remain. The adjustment f sound delay is another reason.

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. This is a prime example of Plex’s half-baked attitude. Except in this case, they pulled the only developer to focus on the already too late and forgotten PMP.

If you’re reading this Plex staff, why did you create this if it wasn’t going to be maintained?

It’s utterly insane that in 2017 we have a video player that I can update almost every week with a client that’s alpha at best. They’ve truly opened pandora’s box with this one.

I will persevere using it in the hope that one day it will be given the treatment it deserves.

I’m also a stubborn ■■■■■■■ and the Odroid C2 / Kodi / Plex for Kodi combo is the only device that really shines on my plasma. OpenPHT is like looking through grainy glasses in comparison.

@danjames92 said:
I’m also a stubborn **** and the Odroid C2 / Kodi / Plex for Kodi combo is the only device that really shines on my plasma. OpenPHT is like looking through grainy glasses in comparison.

Except of course PMP v2 for Odroid C2
Wink Wink @plex devs

@Pukinator said:
Except of course PMP v2 for Odroid C2
Wink Wink @plex devs

Well it may happen soon. Plex do love to push out half baked stuff ( in the case of PMP v2 i think they forgot to turn the oven on.) I accept it’s preview But let’s face it… As with all Plex TV based clients… It will never get further than Alpha before Plex decide it’s finished… Judging off current standards. the Alpha will be circa mid 2019. By which time this thread will be in the Plex forum graveyard thread along with this client.

I’ve looked at PMP v2 briefly, looked as if they took half the criticism to heart and decided to try to fix half of that with this new release and only half succeeded in that … So nothing much remains.

Move along, nothing to see there. Or here for that matter.

It almost seems like a plan to keep putting out crappy pre alpha TV software that never gets to a usable state. Probably all devs are hard at work bringing the cloud stuff up to speed for the new generation.

Although I’d love to see PfK developed further this was never on Plex’s radar. They stole the devs (hired :smile: ) to work on stuff that’s on their radar.

However, from what I read on the Kodi site PfK is open source. Maybe we can convince @croneter to pick this up. His PKC is very good.
OR
Let’s request a new feature such as an option to use an external play strictly for playback.

Gotta face it PfK is dead to Plex, @keithah and @ruuk

@thruster999 said:
Although I’d love to see PfK developed further this was never on Plex’s radar. They stole the devs (hired :smile: ) to work on stuff that’s on their radar.

However, from what I read on the Kodi site PfK is open source. Maybe we can convince @croneter to pick this up. His PKC is very good.
OR
Let’s request a new feature such as an option to use an external play strictly for playback.

Gotta face it PfK is dead to Plex, @keithah and @ruuk

:lol:
Sorry, not interested. PlexKodiConnect beats the official Plex for Kodi any day if I look at my personal use cases :wink:

@croneter said:

@thruster999 said:
Although I’d love to see PfK developed further this was never on Plex’s radar. They stole the devs (hired :smile: ) to work on stuff that’s on their radar.

However, from what I read on the Kodi site PfK is open source. Maybe we can convince @croneter to pick this up. His PKC is very good.
OR
Let’s request a new feature such as an option to use an external play strictly for playback.

Gotta face it PfK is dead to Plex, @keithah and @ruuk

:lol:
Sorry, not interested. PlexKodiConnect beats the official Plex for Kodi any day if I look at my personal use cases :wink:

It’s a completely different aim to be fair. No one can blame you for that. :slight_smile: Personally, I want a Plex UI with the Kodi player. That’s why I was so excited to see the potential that will seemingly go unfulfilled. I’ll keep using it until some Kodi update renders it unable to open.

Well my addon won’t even connect to my server anymore. I have Internet access and can watch hdhomerun.

Don’t really fancy wiping my device that got flashed only a few days ago.

Sigh.

There are some interesting skins being developed at the minute on the Kodi WIP forum (Work In Progress)…

https://forum.kodi.tv/forumdisplay.php?fid=160

I am particularly interested in Grid by Jeroen (due for beta release soon) and _djh was working on a new Aeon 2017 which looked really slick.

Looking fwd to combining with @croneter PKC sooner rather than later.

I’d love for someone to create a slightly more modern Plex Home Theater skin for Kodi that can be customised with new view types.

Not a great fan of the new PMP with the square media buttons in the top left. Just my opinion of course.

@mini.PLEX said:
There are some interesting skins being developed at the minute on the Kodi WIP forum (Work In Progress)…

Kodi Community Forum - WIP Skins

I am particularly interested in Grid by Jeroen (due for beta release soon) and _djh was working on a new Aeon 2017 which looked really slick.

I was quite excited when I saw a theme called Grid… Was/am kinda hoping the finished article has a “grid” or wall view (that isn’t designed for the partially sighted.) What is it with all these huge tiles for a single show/movie poster?
Do people really need the tiles so big that u can only fit 12-18 on screen without clicking/scrolling? Or is that all the skinners just delete everything after they watch and two clicks takes them through their whole library? :smiley:
Proportioned grid/wall view with info, rotten tomatoes ratings… that’s about it really…
Still its all a positive against PMP v2… 10-15 clicks takes you to the wanted library of the wanted server.

Until I find the above I still find PfK the fastest to get where I wanna go ( @croneter I mean for multiple server users) and as @danjames92 said earlier just run it until it breaks.

@stefanvanruiten said:
Probably all devs are hard at work bringing the cloud stuff up to speed for the new generation.

Nope… Camera/Photograph… Key Plex words nowadays and already stated I think as why @keithah or @ruuk or both have been pulled off this project.
My imagined scenario… 12 months after PMP V2 was due to launch. Decide to stop playing space invaders and realise they have gotten nowhere. Hire 2 guys from Kodi just to appease us. They develop something great in a limited time receive lots of positive feedback and decide “Hey that’s how PMPv2 should look.”
Send them off to advance Elans only interest (photo’s) or indeed fix other completely broken clients.
Then meanwhile turn the whole PfK usability into something totally f*cked.