Plex Amp download options

Because this won’t download all of my music like Apple Music or Spotify can do, it is not a replacement. I view plex as my all around go to for media, I want to replace every service with plex.

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I really wish I could simply download a single song instead of a whole album… or long press a song and then have radio buttons come up alongside the song titles for me to select what to download.

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noted! we figured that might make the downloads screen messy, but definitely on the list of things to think about for the future.

i agree

I have my entire music library downloaded already on the Plex app and it works fine (all 200+Gb. Wouldn’t it be possible to get PlexAmp to reference those downloads instead of the server based version of my library? This would overcome whatever technical restrictions you have on managing downloads and allow people who are offline a lot (or want to save their data) to use PlexAmp which is a nicer app than the main Plex app.

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on android, it’s conceivable because the OS lets apps run in the background more (and it would need to be running as a server). on iOS, not so much.

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If we’re given options about download, it’d also be nice to have more granular control on delete. I’d love to be able to download (many) albums, and then as I listen to them and figure out which tracks I’d really like to have in offline mode, I can delete individual tracks to free up space, or simply create my own personally curated “Favorites Offline”

Considering we can’t download our whole libraries in the plexamp app, are there any other android apps that can access our plex libraries?

I want to house all my media in plex but want to have a music player that I don’t have to stay on top of downloads or use cell data when I’m out for a run.

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Any chance we will see add to queue for the downloads tab’s entries? Would be a huge boon to QoL for long drives without any decent cellular coverage.

yeah, at some point we’ll allow modification of offline queues :+1:

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Echoing the need to allow us to download the entirety of our playlists when using PlexAmp. I’ve reluctantly had to switch to PlexAmp as the android Plex app is crashing nonstop at the moment. It’s ridiculous that the justification to not download the entire playlist is because the system wasn’t designed for users downloading large amounts. The Plex app allows this as does every single music streaming or playing app in the world, this has nothing to do with the software or hardware capability.

I have just over 15,000 songs currently and I want to download ONE playlist that has 470 songs, yet because it is over 24 hours long I suddenly can’t? Spotify allows you to download the entirety of a playlist and you only need to re-authorise once a month. The argument that 24 hours is enough music time without an internet connection is a silly one to make, you don’t know how people choose to live their lives. I, for instance, enjoy trekking out to the woods for 30 hours at a time (the length of my playlist) with no data connection so I photograph bears who like to yodel.

I’m really regretting purchasing a lifetime pass now, it seems a lot of the suggestions and complaints on the forums are ignored for features that no one asked for.

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it might seem ridiculous to you, but it’s a fact.

that playlist is probably almost exactly 24 hours long (3 x 470 / 60), so at worst you’d miss a few tracks with that setting at max.

then download a few different things which total over 30 hours.

It’s not really a fact, the Plex app doesn’t suffer from the same limitations so evidently the Plex team know how to allow full playlists to be downloaded. This is a pure design choice you’ve made, which would be acceptable were it not the fact that in order to use PlexAmp you have to pay money and that the Plex app itself is missing many features. Not quite sure why a feature that is providing by every single streaming service out there doesn’t seem like an important selling point.

I get that this is your app and it’s how you wanted it to be designed, but when you’re charging people money to utilise it, should you not be listening to the multitude of posts both here and elsewhere on the web asking for this limitation to be removed?

469 tracks at a total time of 30 hours, it’s only decided to download ~370 songs.

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Which would be a wonderful idea if either app allowed you to then use the playlists to play said music after downloading it. I can download each album for all the songs in one playlist individually, but as I haven’t downloaded the playlist itself I can’t actually play the playlist which nullifies the entire point of having playlists. You can even shuffle all downloaded music because then you’ll be hearing music from other playlists that you’ve downloaded.

So it’s either defeat the whole purpose of having playlists in the first place, or follow the arbitrary rules that you’ve set on how people should be listening to their music. Isn’t the whole point of having Plex to give people the freedom of control over their own media?

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yep, you got it :+1:

there aren’t that many people having issues with it. some, to be sure, but it’s not on the top of the list in terms of what people have been asking for. we have been listening to a ton of requests as you’ll notice if you browse through the forums.

i’m not sure what this means.

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I also wish Plexamp for Android could sync more than 24 hours of a playlist, especially since Plex for Android’s music syncing has stopped working for me all together. Please see Music Sync Problems: Music syncs but will not play

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I recommend Smart playlists. Took me a bit to get used to using those. But they are the way to go and a way to get more than 24hrs of music downloaded/synced to your phone. I could create 10 smart playlists with 24 hours each and put them on my phone no problem.

For me I have a old smartphone that I use kind of like an mp3 player with only plexamp on it and keep it in the car. It has 5 days worth of music on it at this point spread over a few smart playlist. One playlist ends and I just switch over to the next one.

It’s not that Plexamp does not let you download your entire library. Or that it does not let you download more than 24hrs. Its that if you want to download your entire library of music you need to put your library into playlists and then just download a handful of playlists instead. Yeah its a different approach, yeah it requires a bit of planning and effort on your part to create a playlist and its really easy to do. And it also makes your music library more interesting.

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It sounds like (at least for Android users) this could be the solution to having an entire library downloaded on Plex and playing it through PlexAmp. How likely is this to happen?

I’m one of the many Google Play Music users deeply saddened that it was shut down. So far, Plex has been a winning alternative. Unfortunately, while it runs great for me in a browser and on my Android TV, it crashes all the time on all four phones used in our house (two Pixel phones and two Pixel 3 phones). Since installing the PlexAmp app, I haven’t had crashes at all, but I also haven’t had access to my entirely library downloaded. Our family spends ~90 minutes a day in the car with little to no cell service, so having to regularly download new playlists is just not realistic. Hoping that one day soon we can access our entirely Plex downloaded library via PlexAmp. Thanks for your time.

we definitely plan to expand download options in the future, it just hasn’t been a priority because most people find they can live without “my entire library, offline”. let me give you some examples of what i download:

  • Fresh :heart: smart playlist: X hours of highly rated music which i haven’t listened to recently.
  • Library Radio: X hours of good selections from my library.
  • Brand New smart playlist: X hours of recently added music.

the first and third refresh whenever you open the app, so music “slides through” as you listen, or add new music. the middle one can be manually refreshed whenever you get bored with it.

so yeah, it’s not your entire library offline, but it’s a lot less space, and for many this sort of thing works well.

Thank you for the response. I’m hopeful that one day you’ll be able to allow me to access my full downloaded library on Plex in PlexAmp. Then I’ll have full parity with what I’ve lost on Google Play Music. By the way, I’m super impressed that as the CTO and Co-Founder, you’ve responded to my posting so quickly.

I’m really optimistic about PlexAmp — especially because this dialogue exists :slight_smile:

But related to all this, I’m also trying to play ONLY music downloaded and never use cellular from PlexAmp via CarPlay. I don’t need to download an entire library, although that would be nice too.

My bigger issue is that the “Home” section acts totally independent of the downloaded music. I find it really counter intuitive that if, for example, you play a song from downloads then navigate to recently played it will not be there. Easy to reproduce on PlexAmp iOS with or without CarPlay.

Tonight I was driving in my car and wanted to play a song I recently played from downloads. I could not do it — so I located the song in my library by searching for the artist but the app proceeded to then play the song over cellular, yet the song was already downloaded!

Downloads are behaving like an app within an app! Downloads are like their own little world with limited capability — can’t search by artist , can’t see recently played and the other sections of the app are unaware that you downloaded that song or album.

I find that confusing. Other apps certainly don’t work that way, and I realize this is not meant to be “other apps”, yet I don’t see a benefit from putting Downloads on an island within the app. Seems complicated for users and complex for development in the log run by isolating their functionality rather than integrating it. IMHO.

So I’m wondering if there will be an effort to allow downloads to be integrated more smoothly in the app. Specifically I’d like to search by artist, see recently played and other library and home features but for downloaded media.

Thanks