Agreed!
Definitely on the list, can’t promise when we’ll get to it.
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I wish Plex Amp would function more like a traditional iPod from back in the 16th century or whenever, where I could have my whole music collection on the go and sync it with iTunes when I’m back in the castle…
Except it’s Plex Amp so it’s better than an iPod, and it’s plex which is better than iTunes.
Traveling overseas, or through the mountains we don’t always have access to data… and even if we do data plans are expensive in most of the world. Having everything synced locally to our devices would be faster, cheaper and all around more user friendly.
If iPods could do it, I know Plex can figure it out 
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It’s possible to figure out for sure, just wasn’t worth (in our estimation) the effort/reward ratio 
Fair enough… I don’t know how to code so I have no idea what’s involved, but it does make me respect the simplicity of my dusty (and rusty) olde iPod classic
The 24 hour download limit doesn’t bother me so much, but I’d like to be able to download a shuffled genre or other library filter. I discovered by accident that I can download a shuffled smart playlist that includes more than one genre, but for some reason this doesn’t work when I create a smart playlist of one genre. The smart playlist is really only a workaround - I just want genre radio.
Style Radio doesn’t work well with my music collection, but I figured out how to enable Genre Radio. I’ve been searching the forums and this helped: Plexamp - Expose Style Radio when library Genres set to 'None' - #2 by elan. I needed to set Genre to None (until this is fixed and then it should be Embedded Tags I think???) for my music library and then Genre Radio replaced Style Radio. I’m happy. Thanks for supporting Genre Radio. Essential feature for me - call me crazy with my carefully managed ID3 tags. 
We’re making a tweak where genre radios are exposed instead of styles if you have the library setting for genres set to “embedded tags” which makes more sense…
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Here’s my confusion in reading a year’s worth of replies to paying users insisting this feature just won’t ever grace your app:
How is the co-founder and CTO of Plex flummoxed by the constant request from users for the ability to download files we own to a device that we own for a service that we pay monthly/yearly/once in a lifetime to use?
For a co-founder and CTO of Plex, your apparent bewilderment at the constant request is strange.
I’m having trouble wrapping my head around the difference between your app telling the Plex Server “grab this maximum 24 hours of content, chosen through some kind of algorithm that we ourselves created” and your app telling that same server “grab this no maxium length of content, chosen instead by the user specifically”. It’s starting to seem like a programming issue and it just feels like this was a choice for some other reason other than “we don’t want to do it”.
And by the way, it’s not just music. A friend of mine made a quip that doesn’t apply to me, but certainly applies to him:
That’s pretty sad. I have audiobooks longer than that
His library is primarily spoken word. Something tells me Genre/Whatever Radio downloads won’t exactly cut it for him. Who doesn’t love reading Chapters 3, 6, 18, and 23 of a book only?
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I’m not flummoxed, sorry I gave that impression. I think Plexamp already provides the ability to “download files we own to a device that we own” and the way it does so works for the vast majority of our users. Does it work for everyone? No. But at the end of the day we make choices and tradeoffs in designs and features.
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I’d like to throw my $0.02 in if it’s worth anything. I’d really like the capability to disable the 24h limit and sync my entire library.
I use Plex Media Server on a personal server and I use Plex app on Android to stream throughout the house. I’ve been really happy with that usage, and once I found that I could sync my entire library to my Android I figured I would pay for a lifetime pass so that I could do so. I had some bugs, but it was worth paying for. However, after using this feature for the past year or so, it’s gotten worse and worse to the point where the standard Plex app just no longer works for me. I get random errors when syncing (“Storage limit reached” when I have 200 GB free on my memory card?), it randomly stops playing on its own when I’m not connected to WiFi, and I don’t get any support from the forums. The last time I went on a 40 min bike ride I had to restart the app more than a dozen times! I stopped using it after that.
After spending lots of time searching online I randomly find that there’s a different Plex app (Plexamp), download it, and wow it fixed all my issues! Worked perfectly while working outside the house outside the reach of WiFi and while out riding my bike…no more constant restarts of Plex or turning on my phone for the audio to continue. So I go to test offline usage and download my library with Plexamp and I find it has a 24h limitation. At this point I seriously do have to choose between 1 app that won’t continuously play without intervention, or a solid working app that I can’t sync all my media.
I understand there might be design decisions behind the choice to impose this limit, but as someone else previously stated we know the capability is there since it’s in the standard Plex app (then again, it clearly isn’t working 100% per my usage), and I do think there are use cases that are not being considered. I want to use a single app to manage and play my library. I want to start a playlist and stream it throughout my house, then jump into my car and using Android Auto on my car stereo continue that same playlist. I want the capability to play that playlist in its entirety whether in my house, car, riding my bike, at a friend’s house, flying, traveling in a rental car, etc. What if my server is down for some reason? It would be great to continue accessing my entire library from my phone until it’s fixed (has happened before). When you consider these scenarios, you can play through 24 hours of music within a few days easy. Maybe I’m in a musical slump and I prefer playing long playlists until something finally speaks to me, or I get sick of something. I bounce back and forth between playing albums, and playlists. And I many times do play a playlist through in its entirety, and of the 30ish playlists I have only 1 is less than 24 hours.
Working within the current restraint of 24 hours - If I have a playlist that contains 7 days of tracks, but Plex only syncs 1 day of those tracks, that’s 85% of my music I’m completely missing when using Plex. Side note: My biggest playlist is one genre that contains 7.5 days of music, and my master made-by-hand playlist that spans all genres is 3 days and is only 75% completed. That’s a big chunk of music I’m not hearing if I’m playing offline, which would be 90% of the time if there were no limit. That to me is the biggest problem.
To provide a bit more details - My entire library is self-ripped FLAC. I currently have 11,638 tracks totaling 317 GB. My phone has a 512 GB micro SD card…plenty of space for my library. I’m an audio enthusiast and when listening at home or in my car, the music is played on an amplified system where I can tell the difference between lossless FLAC and a 256 kbps MP3…so I play my FLAC files natively everywhere. I don’t have an unlimited cell data plan. If I’m not on my home WiFi, I want to use it offline.
To summarize, Plex allows me to sync my entire library, but it’s buggy and has become so frustrating to use that I’ve stopped using it. I found Plexamp and it works perfectly…all issues seen with Plex are gone. But…I can’t sync my entire library.
I can only hope that the voices of those who have truly supported Plex are heard and considered. It really seems to me that the long-term intention with Plexamp would be to do away with the standard Plex app, which should include full sync capabilities.
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If you’re gonna stick with the 24 hours limit, would it be possible to get a playlist to work as the radios do? I have my main playlist that is all of my music that I wouldn’t mind playing in public and it’s 3 days long (and that’s pretty short listening to some people here). I think it would be awesome if I could download 12 or so hours of it at a time and have it refresh with different songs when I get home. right now it will only download the first 24 hours of music from the start of the playlist meaning I never hear the other 2 days worth of music in that playlist.
You can do that really nicely with smart playlists, if you include a rule like “not played in the last 3 weeks”. I have one like this which selects my top-rated tracks, adding this other rule makes it such that it always has X hours of fresh content downloaded.
Right, but I can’t just make a smart playlist that only pulls songs from my preexisting playlist. So I have to make every song in that playlist a certain rating and then make a smart playlist from that, but I can’t rate songs in the playlist view on PlexAmp or Plex…
Is there an app or a tool that can go thru my library and rate the tracks as you suggest without me having to do each one manually?
Not sure I follow, what criteria are you looking to use to rate tracks?
Sorry for the confusion. I was hoping there is a service and associated app that can go through the library and assign a star rating to tracks based on their popularity, or how they did on the billboard list. I guess I am just being lazy, but with 1000s of tracks going through each artist/album/track to rate them could be time consuming. More of a Plex ? than a Plexamp ?.
I’d like to make that an option in the future 
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We retrieve and store popularity data for each track (which powers the radios and smart shuffle features). You can also sort tracks by popularity using the library filtering functionality in Plexamp.
Sounds like the smart shuffle will get it done for me.
