Plex Home?

Hi.

I’m about to setup plex as mediacenter at home with a server and several clients. I understand i need a plex pass in order to be able to access this outside my home. How is this? we are two people, both have iPhones and iPads and a number of computers and Android Mediacenter (minix) at home. Hw do we both use the media from the one server both at home and on trips. I want to get away with only one Plex Pass if possible, but both needs the ios app, so how do i manage that?

@BTvestad said:

I’m about to setup plex as mediacenter at home with a server and several clients. I understand i need a plex pass in order to be able to access this outside my home.

AFAIK you don’t need plex pass just for access out of your LAN

That’s all fine and dandy, but we will want to use it outside, on travels and separatly on work travel so we will need at least one pass, the question is how to do this for apps on to different Apple appstore accounts and one PLex home. I want to get away with as little extra cost as poosible. so i was kind of hoping i could get all this working with only one Plex pass.

When you buy Plex Pass and create managed users and/or invite existing Plex users to join your Home, they all will receive benefits of Plex Pass.
Have you read this? https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/203815766

If you buy a plex pass you will be able to setup a “Plex Home” ( https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/203960236-Consequences-of-Being-in-a-Plex-Home ) and you’ll be the Admin of the home. You can invite other Plex users with their own account who don’t need to be Plex Pass users but they can be just regular users. The advantage of a Plex Home is that you can share your library with other users while each one keeps his own user.

If the problem is common access to the server, if you are just two, and supposedly you trust the other person, why not just share the same Plex user?

Then there’s the issue with clients: if you buy Plex Pass you can play movies on any client for any platform (Android, iOS ecc), but I suppose that other users in your “Home” will need to pay for the app unlock too.

I don’t know if for your use case Plex Home is really needed or a real plus, but maybe I’m missing something

Just to clarify, I have a Plex server but no Plex Pass, I set up my clients (smart TV, Mac with Plex Home Theater, iPhone and iPad) and I had to pay to unlock those apps. All the clients are logged in with my user ID and can access the server from outside the home network. My GF (and me too) uses the iPad when she wants to watch something on the go, logged with my user ID. No need for a Plex Pass in this scenario.

@Bartlomiej Baraniec said:
When you buy Plex Pass and create managed users and/or invite existing Plex users to join your Home, they all will receive benefits of Plex Pass.
Have you read this? https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/203815766

“For example, once the admin account of the Plex Home (or another non-Managed User member) signs in to a Plex app to activate it, it’s possible to quickly switch to any other member of that Plex Home. This can be used to provide members of the Home free access to Plex apps that a subscription brings, for instance.”

Does the above mean that, if I’m not on Plex Pass but I join a Plex Home, to get the benefit of the Plex Pass or to get unlocked access to a client app that’s been unlocked by a certain user, I have to switch to that user?

@zpaolo11x said:
Does the above mean that, if I’m not on Plex Pass but I join a Plex Home, to get the benefit of the Plex Pass or to get unlocked access to a client app that’s been unlocked by a certain user, I have to switch to that user?

No.

  1. If you have an own Plex server, you should never join someone else’s Plex Home. Just don’t do it. You can only be member in one Plex Home. Even without a Plex Pass your server is your home, as long as it is your plex credentials it is signed in with.
  2. All the other members of that Home are just one 4-digit PIN away from accessing your user account (if you have set a PIN at all [and you should not set a PIN if you don’t have a PlexPass]).
  3. the Plex Pass is applied mostly to a server. And to the Plex Home of its server admin. If other users join this Home, they get some PlexPass benefits like access to the non-free apps. But: see 1) and 2)

@OttoKerner said:

  1. If you have an own Plex server, you should never join someone else’s Plex Home. Just don’t do it. You can only be member in one Plex Home. Even without a Plex Pass your server is your home, as long as it is your plex credentials it is signed in with.

Understood, that’s why I simply setup all my devices and my GF’s devices with my credentials. I trust she won’t mess with my account.

  1. the Plex Pass is applied mostly to a server. And to the Plex Home of its server admin. If other users join this Home, they get some PlexPass benefits like access to the non-free apps. But: see 1) and 2)

Ok, the wording in the Plex page was not clear when referring to " it’s possible to quickly switch to any other member of that Plex Home". Now I get it, thank you.

You don’t need a plexpass. Neither of you need plexpass. Nothing you have described here requires a plexpass. The second person needs a free account. Unless you want to share your credentials, then by all means.

If you want to use the app, you need to pay for it, or get the plexpass.

i guess i have to clarify a little.
As for now i don’t have anything,
I’m considering setting up a server and I want to be able to access that from anywhere in the world.
we are two people that both travel quite a bit and mostly not together.
so i need apps and world wide access for at least two separate people.
so form what i can read on the pages of Plex i can get free full functioning apps with the Plex home pass, but do that apply only to me, or do it also apply to the other person or persons in my family
PS! to use one users account on the others equipment is out of the question

Remote Access does not require a plexpass subscription.

So you can purchase the mobile app, one for each of you for a cost of about $5.00 each
Or you can purchase a plexpass subscription; with a monthly/yearly subscription OR a one time lifetime purchase.

For what you want to do, purchasing the mobile app twice (each of you need to buy it with your iOS accounts) is the more cost effective option.

@hthighway said:

For what you want to do, purchasing the mobile app twice (each of you need to buy it with your iOS accounts) is the more cost effective option.

What I was trying to say from the very beginning :slight_smile: A couple of questions though: when you buy the app on a device is that bound to the device (let’s say to the Apple ID) or to the Plex user? If users A and B (I mean different free Plex users) want to both access user A server, is that possible without Plex Home or user B needs to be logged in as user A?

Hi.
User A is going to be Me, and I’m going to be the server admin. And therefore also the main Plex user.
There is going to be one local server Stationed in Norway.
User A has an Apple ID and user B has a different Apple ID.
Both users is going to have separate users in Plex as well.
Because i don’t want to cross use userid’s or passwords.
Both users might be in other contries than Norway simultaniously.
Like user A is in Spain and user B is in Japan… So how can both access the server or more correctly the media on the server then.

https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201105738-Create-a-New-Share

Unless you want to restrict media accessible to the other user you shouldn’t need plex pass

I think you’re right.
Looks like i’ve wont need a plex pass after all.
Thank’s alot for your help. Much appreciated.

@zpaolo11x said:
when you buy the app on a device is that bound to the device (let’s say to the Apple ID) or to the Plex user?

It is bound to the appstore login. i.e. on iOS to the AppleID, on Android to the respective PlayStore or Amazon accounts.
Meaning if you have 2 devices which are bound to the same appstore account, you only need to buy the app once.

You cannot transfer app licenses from Apple to Google or Amazon at all.

If users A and B (I mean different free Plex users) want to both access user A server, is that possible without Plex Home or user B needs to be logged in as user A?

No Home needed.
You can share to (almost) as much users as you want, even without Plex Pass.

The only things to keep in mind are upstream capacity of the server’s internet connection
and/or
cpu load (which is more likely to be needed with mobile clients which often have poor connectivity, so the transcoder will often have to reduce the bandwidth of videos.)

I’m planing to set up a Intel Nuc computer for that purpose alone, I allready have a pretty good Synology nas that i’ve stored most of my media on. my internet connection is also pretty good. so I think this will work,
i read a bit more and found that it’s supposed to work with only one pass for several users. I’m thinking we might want Mobile syncing for offline use. Typically on plains and or trains and so on.

“Member of a Plex Home:
If your Plex account is a member of a Plex Home, that will also allow you to unlock the Plex for iOS app. To do so, simply sign in to the app using your Plex account.”

You could just set up DDNS. open up 32400 which probably is anyway … and hit it directly without going to plex tv. Synology gives you a free DDNS account. so you would hit http://example.familyds.com:32400/web. All done.

DDNS is totally unnecessary with Plex. plex.tv provides the same functionality.
Plus, an own domain invalidates the TLS certificates which Plex issues.
Onlky use it if you’re prepared to do extra work and suply your own certificates.
And try to import these custom certificates into your iDevice…