Plex sorts properly named media under show i do not have

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I was making a Looney Tunes folder and since a series of shorts ranging 40 years doesn’t conform to standard TV seasons, i decided to make sure the folder name had the right TVDB in the swirly brackets and even a .plexmatch file with the text containing the name and tvdbid matching the TVDB number and NOTHING else to avoid complication.

i instead get all the shorts sorted in a TV series from 2009 called The Forgotten. what does it take to make the plex read it as the show i told it emphatically it was? I even made sure it was its own folder named Looney Tunes in the plex library. i tried. what does it take to make it name the show what i want, to avoid faulty sorting? I never even heard of the Forgotten and certainly do not have any of those episodes here.

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Is this the show you’re talking about?

Looney Tunes (1929) {tvdb-72514}

https://thetvdb.com/series/looney-tunes#seasons

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Looney Tunes on my server.

  • No plexmatch needed.
  • /tv is the folder added to the tv show library.
  • Episode ordering is TVDB (Aired).
    Edit the show (pencil icon) → Advanced → Episode Ordering = TheTVDB (Aired)

Note: You may need to Plex Dance the show after any renaming / reorganization.

Looney Tunes 
O:\tv\Looney Tunes (1929) {tvdb-72514}
+---Season 1936
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1936e19 I Love to Singa.mkv
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+---Season 1938
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1938e17 Katnip Kollege.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1938e25 Wholly Smoke.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1938e29 Porky in Wackyland.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1938e33 Porky in Egypt.mkv
|       
+---Season 1939
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1939e22 Old Glory.mkv
|       
+---Season 1940
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1940e16 You Ought to Be in Pictures.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1940e24 A Wild Hare.mkv
|       
+---Season 1941
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1941e19 Hiawatha's Rabbit Hunt [HEVC].mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1941e22 Meet John Doughboy [HEVC].mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1941e39 Rhapsody in Rivets.mkv
|       
+---Season 1942
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1942e31 The Dover Boys at Pimento University.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1942e32 The Hep Cat.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1942e36 A Tale of Two Kitties.mkv
|       
+---Season 1943
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1943e03 Pigs in a Polka.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1943e11 The Wise Quacking Duck.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1943e18 Porky Pig's Feat.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1943e20 Scrap Happy Daffy.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1943e22 A Corny Concerto.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1943e24 Falling Hare.mkv
|       
+---Season 1944
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1944e01 Little Red Riding Rabbit.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1944e10 Swooner Crooner.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1944e19 Birdy and the Beast.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1944e20 Buckaroo Bugs.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1944e22 Plane Daffy.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1944e25 The Old Grey Hare.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1944e26 The Stupid Cupid.mkv
|       
+---Season 1945
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1945e03 Draftee Daffy.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1945e06 Life with Feathers.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1945e10 A Gruesome Twosome.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1945e17 Hare Tonic.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1945e18 Nasty Quacks.mkv
|       
+---Season 1946
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1946e01 Book Revue.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1946e02 Baseball Bugs.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1946e05 Baby Bottleneck.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1946e10 Hair-Raising Hare.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1946e11 Kitty Kornered.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1946e13 Acrobatty Bunny.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1946e15 The Great Piggy Bank Robbery.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1946e18 Walky Talky Hawky.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1946e21 The Big Snooze.mkv
|       
+---Season 1947
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1947e05 A Hare Grows in Manhattan.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1947e07 Tweetie Pie.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1947e12 Easter Yeggs.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1947e14 A Pest in the House.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1947e19 Slick Hare.mkv
|       
+---Season 1948
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1948e01 Gorilla My Dreams.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1948e04 What Makes Daffy Duck.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1948e08 Back Alley Oproar.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) S1948e13 Buccaneer Bunny.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1948e19 Haredevil Hare.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1948e26 The Foghorn Leghorn.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1948e30 The Stupor Salesman.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1948e33 Scaredy Cat.mkv
|       
+---Season 1949
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1949e05 Porky Chops.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1949e11 High Diving Hare.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1949e16 Long-Haired Hare.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1949e24 Fast and Furry-ous.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1949e29 For Scent-imental Reasons.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1949e33 A Ham in a Role.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1949e34 Rabbit Hood.mkv
|       
+---Season 1950
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1950e01 Home, Tweet Home.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1950e06 The Scarlet Pumpernickel.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1950e14 8 Ball Bunny.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1950e19 Hillbilly Hare.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1950e20 Dog Gone South.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1950e24 Canary Row.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1950e30 Rabbit of Seville.mkv
|       
+---Season 1951
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1951e03 Canned Feud.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1951e07 Bunny Hugged.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1951e08 Scent-imental Romeo.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1951e15 Chow Hound.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1951e21 Lovelorn Leghorn.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1951e24 A Bear for Punishment.mkv
|       
+---Season 1952
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1952e02 Operation Rabbit.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1952e03 Feed the Kitty.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1952e04 Gift Wrapped.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1952e08 Beep Beep.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1952e12 Going Going Gosh.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1952e13 Little Red Rodent Hood.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1952e15 The Hasty Hare.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1952e25 Tree for Two.mkv
|       
+---Season 1953
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1953e05 Kiss Me Cat.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1953e06 Duck Amuck.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1953e13 Knighty Knight Bugs.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1953e18 Duck Dodgers in the 24.5th Century.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1953e19 Bully for Bugs.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1953e23 Zipping Along.mkv
|       
+---Season 1954
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1954e01 Dog Pounded.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1954e04 Feline Frame-Up.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1954e07 Bugs and Thugs.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1954e15 Devil May Hare.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) S1954e18 Bewitched Bunny.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1954e19 Satan's Waitin'.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1954e25 From A to Z-Z-Z-Z.mkv
|       
+---Season 1955
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1955e09 Sandy Claws.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1955e23 Speedy Gonzales.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1955e29 Guided Muscle.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1955e31 One Froggy Evening.mkv
|       
+---Season 1956
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1956e04 The High and the Flighty.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1956e05 Broom-Stick Bunny.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1956e23 Deduce, You Say.mkv
|       
+---Season 1957
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1957e01 Three Little Bops.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1957e04 Ali Baba Bunny.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1957e06 Bedevilled Rabbit.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1957e07 Boyhood Daze.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1957e12 Steal Wool.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1957e14 What's Opera, Doc.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1957e15 Tabasco Road.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1957e16 Birds Anonymous.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1957e17 Ducking the Devil.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1957e22 Show Biz Bugs.mkv
|       
+---Season 1958
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1958e05 Robin Hood Daffy.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1958e06 Hare-way to the Stars.mkv
|       
+---Season 1959
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1959e12 Mexicali Shmoes.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1959e20 A Witch's Tangled Hare.mkv
|       
+---Season 1960
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1960e11 Mouse and Garden.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1960e19 High Note.mkv
|       
+---Season 1961
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1961e13 The Pied Piper of Guadalupe.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1961e17 Beep Prepared.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1961e19 Nelly's Folly.mkv
|       
+---Season 1962
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1962e07 Bill of Hare.mkv
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1962e11 Honey's Money.mkv
|       
+---Season 1963
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1963e13 Mad as a Mars Hare.mkv
|       
+---Season 1964
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1964e05 Dr. Devil and Mr. Hare.mkv
|       
+---Season 1966
|       Looney Tunes (1929) s1966e09 A-Haunting We Will Go.mkv
|       
\---Specials
        Looney Tunes (1929) s00e101 Man from Wackyland The Art of Bob Clampett.mkv
        Looney Tunes (1929) s00e64 Bosko, Buddy and the Best of Black and White.mkv
        Looney Tunes (1929) s00e66 Leon Schlesinger The Merrie Cartoon Mogul.mkv
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my library is tv shows as folder type, and the ordering is using TVDB Standard

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i originally had the folder just named Looney Tunes but tried the naming suggestion used in the plex guide. and i changed the ordering to TVDB. it actually seemed to be in proper order before, sorting the seasons by years. but the episodes were in order. Just named as episodes of the Forgotten. and they still are.

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and

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also trying to play them from the front page of the series it gives me this. now i can play movies on this thing, as well as TV shows. so this is just not feasible as an error.

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its also a lie cause when i play them in each “season” i can play them just fine.

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ok that fix matching did it! the “episode 1 - 5” are replaced with titles! you really came through. hopefully you can help me with another detection issue.

I also had some trouble with documentaries being found and scanned. Like i could not get some series to appear, when the library was set to tv shows, yet several but not all episodes appear when put as a movie. though several dozen files all appear as the info for a Lou Costello movie (that i certainly do NOT have, but they wear that face in plex.) i was sure if it doesnt have a reference source that it would just post the names of the videos.

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it just suck that they are both episodic in some cases and single feature length films. I have the same folder as 2 libraries, and i cant get most of them to appear. Even if all the shows appeared in shows, and the 1 offs appeared in movies. that would be fine. Ideally i would like to get them to just appear as they are, the rest of the information is nice to have but not vital.

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ok the error persists even when its reading the show properly. So it seems the reason the error occurs when trying to play on the series front page, its cause when i tried to play the first episode (1929) the error persists.

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now when i skip, i get taken to the 1930’s and it plays just fine.

is there a setting i need to alter to get it to play? Its a tiny file so it shouldn’t be intense.

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its appeared on other files in here as well. is there a setting i can alter to tell it to just not try to convert it? or do i need to get some batch encoder and just convert all the various videos to a certain standard? cause that would be…tedious given the hundred of short. and the risk of putting out pixelated vomit

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From what I see some of what you have don’t belong to the show “BBC Documentaries”

Unless they’re listed somewhere that doesn’t make sense by the date, I don’t see them

You cannot trust what comes in the file name. It may have “aired on BBC” and it may technically be a “documentary” but it may not be part of the show named “BBC Documentaries”

I don’t see anything for Pioneers of Television or the episode “superheroes” listed under that show

These are listed as their own separate show and should be in their own folders like this

Pioneers of Television (2008) {tvdb-186531}/Season 03/Superheroes s03e03.mkv

Plants Behaving Badly (2017) {tvdb-276737}/Season 01/Murder and Mayhem s01e01.mkv

Billy Connoly’s Big Send Off (2014) {tvdb-281433}/Billy Connoly’s Big Send Off s01e01.mkv

You absolutely must use the “s01e01” format and nothing else. Plex will have no idea what to do with it otherwise
Anything that says 3 of 4, 1 of 2, ect… will never work properly

Keep in mind the show BBC Documentaries is organized slightly different as far as naming goes
It has seasons and episodes listed by year
This is how it should look

BBC Documentaries (1936) {tvdb-79660} <-main show folder

Season 2021 <–Season Folders
Season 2022
Season 2023

Episode names
Screenshot (1990)

I’m not sure exactly what you mean but the files are not the issue. It’s the naming and organizing
Review this
Naming and Organizing Your TV Show Files | Plex Support

And download this
https://www.tweaking4all.com/home-theatre/rename-my-tv-series-v2/

This pulls the show name and episode order directly from the TVDB. It eliminates all the guesswork and odd formats when it comes to shows like BBC Documentaries and Loony Tunes

All you have to do is find the name in the list it gives you and drop your file in

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Noticed some of the Looney Tunes files are MP4 files.

Plex can read embedded metadata from MP4 files. If that metadata is bad, it will cause problems when Plex tries to match movies and shows.

Try configuring Plex not to look at embedded metadata:

  1. Edit the library → Advanced → uncheck Prefer Local Metadata.
  2. Save changes and refresh metadata.
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yeah it was a catch all for the British stuff. so is there a way to make some obscure ones just appear. Like stripping them down to a bare title? like theres history channel and discovery channel and so on.

I was referring to the looney tunes that wouldn’t play in plex despite being so damn small. Apparently its cause mp4s have bad data? So i was worried about recoding them.

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S1929E01 is MPEG1 video. I’ve never tried to play such in Plex, so no idea how it would handle it.

MPEG1 dates back to the early 90s and has been superseded by MPEG2 (DVD & US broadcast video), H.264 (HD Blu-ray), and H.265 (4K HDR Blu-ray & ATSC 3.0 broadcasts).

You might try running it through Handbrake or similar tools and convert it to H.264 or H.265. That should make it playable, but won’t help the picture quality.

Encode one of the files, then place it in an “other videos” library. It is a quick way to see how Plex will handle the video and how it will look onscreen. Plex will not try to match it with online databases, consider it a duplicate of your tv show library, etc.

Better yet, see if you can find a higher quality source, such as DVDs or recordings of over the air or streaming broadcasts. Notice the resolution of S1929E01 is 352x240. That is VHS tape quality. The DVDs will be 720x480 MPEG2, double the resolution of VHS quality.

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i got 4 sources of looney tunes and only 2 seem to have copies going back at least to the early days. And those sources are hard to find in decent quality. I have had to resort to finding some off youtube for decent looks cause they are pixel vomit in some cases, and in others, they are dark to the point of me wondering why they even uploaded what they had, or the sound was next to mute. I really had to rely on whatever i can get. I suppose i have to just test each one and see if handbrake can straighten it out without loosing quality. or i suppose look on youtube. the download program usually goes to an MP4 standard. so as long as they have a decent copy i don’t have to encode and risk degradation.

so a question about the “others” videos would that be more forgiving with titles that are not in any global database, or named properly?

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ok so…I took a youtube clip, and i ran it through microsoft clipchamp just to trim off the last few seconds (it was the uploaders logo and played with a VERY loud outro song compared to the low volume of the short. Very Jarring.) and i couldnt keep the original format, so i chose the 720P encoding. and the result will not even appear in the scan. even with refreshed metadata.

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this is the properties of the file. and i copied the name from the original that DID appear in plex, so i have no idea why it won’t appear unless clip champ is just the worst encoder on the block. But handbrake wont let me trim the length.

so i ran that version through plex and added this new one…

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but it still won’t appear after a rescan

update Plex Dance worked on that. But man the idea of doing that everytime i stumble on a bad mpg. I suppose that solves that.

oh i don’t think you guys answered my other question, about the “other videos” and what standards it uses? like would it be better for “less likely to be in the TVDB or MovieDB” documentaries? or would i be better off just naming each and every file with the TVDB number? Is there a recourse to the ones that won’t appear like what i can strip it down to make it appear? its a lot and i anticipate some failures and would like to have a fallback.

For Example i have something from Disney Treasures On the Front Lines, that is not in the TVDB, I have some introductions to some disney shorts (ripped off a dvd so i couldn’t tack it on at the time) but they get clumped into one episode that will not play. and they are in mpeg4 format. for that matter none of the videos will play.

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and even the single ones.

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BTW you guys are great at helping me face my MYRIAD problems with this program, and i appreciate it :slight_smile:

update so… the looney tunes files that go missing when i replace them with good ones…turns out they were found. and i will remind you they are named as indicated and all within this one folder.

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how does this compute?

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Other Videos are not matched against anything.

It is meant for things such as personal media that will not be in IMDB, etc databases.

It can also help with troubleshooting movies/tv shows/etc. You can check if the file will be recognized (but not matched) by Plex, if it can direct play, etc.

Bad embedded metadata is often the cause of shows/episodes being misrecognized.

See my earlier post about MP4 metadata. Check the setting for “prefer local metadata” and disable it if enabled, then refresh the metadata.

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i refreshed it and the forgotten is still there.

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You will need to plex dance the media

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