Plex takes too long to download metadata or does not at all (Argentina issue)

May be if you make 10 or so requests in parallel there would be issues
eg batch file firing perhaps 10 different requests like these in parallel

start cmd /k curl -vo junk1a.jpg "http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/rgNYcYmUmZSK5Ibl78NV3QT1dFV.jpg"
start cmd /k curl -vo junk1b.jpg "http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/rgNYcYmUmZSK5Ibl78NV3QT1dFV.jpg"
start cmd /k curl -vo junk1c.jpg "http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/rgNYcYmUmZSK5Ibl78NV3QT1dFV.jpg"

I can’t believe it. After everything I did it turns out the problem is between the ISP/Plex/Themoviedb
I tried refreshing all metadata using a LTE modem, and it worked fine.

@“Maximiliano Fernandez”
Have a look at your wireshark to compare a sequence for a request that terminates ok with an HTTP OK 200 response and one that does not and see if it is the same as what was in wireshark from @gonse

See http://forums.plex.tv/discussion/comment/1653848/#Comment_1653848
Remove your http filter and replace with a filter for the source port for the GET request - eg port == 11166 in the example I had (that would pick all packets with either source port or destination port equals 11166

Same issue. Live in Argentina, using Fibertel/Cablevision, and it’s impossible to fetch metadata. Timed out requests over and over again


I don’t have a wifi adapter in this computer so can’t test with an LTE connection. But what about a proxy? That should work, but when I enable a proxy on Windows settings I get lots of “HTTPError: HTTP Error 403: Target service not allowed” in my PMS log.

@sa2000, there has to be a way to make this work and bypass Fibertel!

Alright, I tried the LTE connection via Bluetooth and can confirm fetching metadata works. However, this isn’t feasible for maintaining the entire library. We really need a solution for Argentina, Fibertel is the largest ISP!

@AgustinCordes said:
Same issue. Live in Argentina, using Fibertel/Cablevision, and it’s impossible to fetch metadata. Timed out requests over and over again


I don’t have a wifi adapter in this computer so can’t test with an LTE connection. But what about a proxy? That should work, but when I enable a proxy on Windows settings I get lots of “HTTPError: HTTP Error 403: Target service not allowed” in my PMS log.

@sa2000, there has to be a way to make this work and bypass Fibertel!

I have discussed with our operations team and I am afraid this between the ISP and Cloudflare / tmdb

The cloudflare is for tmdb and not one arranged by Plex - any issue probably best to raise with the ISP in first instance

@sa2000 said:

@AgustinCordes said:
Same issue. Live in Argentina, using Fibertel/Cablevision, and it’s impossible to fetch metadata. Timed out requests over and over again


I don’t have a wifi adapter in this computer so can’t test with an LTE connection. But what about a proxy? That should work, but when I enable a proxy on Windows settings I get lots of “HTTPError: HTTP Error 403: Target service not allowed” in my PMS log.

@sa2000, there has to be a way to make this work and bypass Fibertel!

I have discussed with our operations team and I am afraid this between the ISP and Cloudflare / tmdb

The cloudflare is for tmdb and not one arranged by Plex - any issue probably best to raise with the ISP in first instance

What about the proxy solution, @sa2000? It does improve fetching metadata, but it raises other problems. For example, when a proxy is enabled, the server isn’t found when I browse app.plex.tv – it does if I login via localhost 127.0.0.1:32400.

However, something else fails because of the repeated Target service not allowed errors. I’m assuming my PMS can’t be accessed from the outside when a proxy is enforced. Any ideas?

@AgustinCordes said:
Same issue. Live in Argentina, using Fibertel/Cablevision, and it’s impossible to fetch metadata. Timed out requests over and over again


I don’t have a wifi adapter in this computer so can’t test with an LTE connection. But what about a proxy? That should work, but when I enable a proxy on Windows settings I get lots of “HTTPError: HTTP Error 403: Target service not allowed” in my PMS log.

@sa2000, there has to be a way to make this work and bypass Fibertel!

@AgustinCordes said:

@sa2000 said:

@AgustinCordes said:
Same issue. Live in Argentina, using Fibertel/Cablevision, and it’s impossible to fetch metadata. Timed out requests over and over again


I don’t have a wifi adapter in this computer so can’t test with an LTE connection. But what about a proxy? That should work, but when I enable a proxy on Windows settings I get lots of “HTTPError: HTTP Error 403: Target service not allowed” in my PMS log.

@sa2000, there has to be a way to make this work and bypass Fibertel!

I have discussed with our operations team and I am afraid this between the ISP and Cloudflare / tmdb

The cloudflare is for tmdb and not one arranged by Plex - any issue probably best to raise with the ISP in first instance

What about the proxy solution, @sa2000? It does improve fetching metadata, but it raises other problems. For example, when a proxy is enabled, the server isn’t found when I browse app.plex.tv – it does if I login via localhost 127.0.0.1:32400.

However, something else fails because of the repeated Target service not allowed errors. I’m assuming my PMS can’t be accessed from the outside when a proxy is enforced. Any ideas?

I am afraid there are always issues with the operation of Plex Media Server and the python agent and system bundle processes when there is a proxy. You can search the support articles and you will see that proxy crops up in many cases as something to check https://support.plex.tv/articles/?s=proxy&search=support_articles

Any news on this issue?

@gonse said:
Any news on this issue?

I don’t have any info on this. It is between tmdb, cloudflare and ISP - there is no Plex involvement with how tmdb setup their data and the use of cloudflare is by them rather than plex

With regards to use of proxy, i mentioned that proxy software is known to cause probelms with operation of Plex Media Server. Heppy to look at logs but

We have made tmdb aware of the issue in Argentina - they will be contacting Cloudflare

The problem is being investigated by tmdb / cloudflare - they have asked for anyone with the issue to provide the output from this request

https://image.tmdb.org/cdn-cgi/trace

There is no harm in also providing traceroute image.tmdb.org output

If anyone still affected in Argentina please post the results here

The problem is being investigated by tmdb / cloudflare - they have asked for anyone with the issue to provide the output from this request https://image.tmdb.org/cdn-cgi/trace

maxi@server:~$ curl -L https://image.tmdb.org/cdn-cgi/trace
fl=44f42
h=image.tmdb.org
ip=190.247.xxx.xxx
ts=1525273181.197
visit_scheme=https
uag=curl/7.47.0
colo=EZE
spdy=off
http=http/1.1
loc=AR

There is no harm in also providing traceroute image.tmdb.org output

maxi@server:~$ traceroute image.tmdb.org
traceroute to image.tmdb.org (104.16.58.155), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1)  1.251 ms  2.280 ms  2.768 ms
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  * * *
 6  149-161-89-200.fibertel.com.ar (200.89.161.149)  22.801 ms 133-161-89-200.fibertel.com.ar (200.89.161.133)  19.113 ms 145-161-89-200.fibertel.com.ar (200.89.161.145)  14.409 ms
 7  150-165-89-200.fibertel.com.ar (200.89.165.150)  17.083 ms  10.834 ms  10.778 ms
 8  * * *
 9  104.16.58.155 (104.16.58.155)  12.265 ms  10.550 ms  9.678 ms

Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks for the help.

Thanks for the feedback.

Will need to do some further tests and will be progressing this issue in this forum topic http://forums.plex.tv/discussion/316062/problem-downloading-artwork-from-tmdb-argentina-users/p1
See my last post here
http://forums.plex.tv/discussion/comment/1666171/#Comment_1666171

Would like to know if this issue is resolved?

Last info I have in this forum topic Problem downloading artwork from TMDB (Argentina Users) is that the ISP providing an alternative router fixed the problem

I think I qualify for the same issue: Ubuntu Server + plex & IPv6 disabled & Argentina & Fibertel & timeout on TMDB. Seems not solved. It may be because of the Technicolor DPC3848VE modem from Fibertel.

A number of users have reported the issue was resolved after Fibertel replaces the Technicolor modem/router with sagemcom

I can confirm this. My Technicolor was replaced by a Sagemcom modem and Plex is now back to its usual greatness. Metadata now loads in seconds

Lol, tried all kind of solutions. But this was the simplest one and it did the trick. Much love

I have the issue too, but I don’t use the Technicolor cablemodem as router, mine is in bridge mode and I have a pfSense as firewall router. with the public IP address.