Plexamp download limit at 120 songs

Plex Labs
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Server Version#: 1.22.3.4392
Player Version#: Plexamp 3.4.5

I am using the Plexamp app.
I have made a playlist with a size of 127 tracks.
If I download this playlist it will only download 120 tracks.
The size of the playlist is 3.2 GB at 9 hours in duration. Quality is set to maximum and most tracks are Flac 44/16.
Opus conversion rate is set to 256kb/s
Is this a bug or intentional? Or am I missing a setting somewhere?

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What did you set the limit to when you downloaded it? A playlist under 3 hours long will just download, but a longer one will popup a dialog with amount to download.

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Alright, So I removed and added the playlist for like the 10th time.
Now it has the correct amount of songs.
Do I need to re-download the playlist every time I add a new song?

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You shouldn’t need to, but I think I understand what’s going on, we’ll make a tweak for the next release.

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I’m having a similar issue. I made a playlist on PlexAmp of 473 songs, total length of 1 day 9 hours. However, when I try to download it, I am limited to only downloading 24 hours worth. The “slider” maxes out at 24 hours, so it only downloads appx. 360 songs. I’ve tried deleting and then re-downloading the playlist, but every time the max is 24 hours.

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that is by design.

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why is this by design? what is the design? why the limitation?

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this has been explained elsewhere but roughly:

  • we wanted a simple, reliable offline system which worked for the majority of use cases.
  • this design comes with certain performance limitations as you download more and more stuff.
  • in the future we’ll look to enhance performance.
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Yes, another vote here for more download capacity. Shouldn’t the storage capacity on our device be the only limit?

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You’d think, but the design of the offline system is another factor. It wasn’t built to handle huge numbers of downloads.

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Since we do not have the ability to create smart playlists by duration we cannot determine the average lengths. As such, on a “classical” music library, 24 hours can either be a few hundred songs, or like 10 (operas, symphonies, etc). to each their own on that but in the past I remember plex limiting the download based on storage capacity on receiving device.

(you can sort by duration and limit a smart playlist) then sync another in the opposite direction, but as we do not have the filter to exclude other lists ‘playlist is not “blah”’ how to know what we really get there? 24hrs is like 5gb on my 256gb iphone. i don’t “need” all that on my phone, but why should i be tethered to my plex remotely to maintain a fresh collection. i should be able to sync as much as i want/can and go)

just my humble opinion.

the solution then from a programmatic standpoint is set an internal hard limit on the download queue so the primary does not get ‘overwhelmed’ on toasters. only toaster users would notice this occurring (likely).

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Well, it feels like the only way this is likely to get attention is if more and more folks poke you to point out that your current answer sucks for a number of us.

Yes, we’re not using it like you thought we would
but that’s not as much our fault as a failure of imagination on your team.

My #1, #2, #3, and #4 reasons for using Plexamp is to use it in places where I don’t want to be connected. I want the stuff I’ve marked downloaded and played in the manner I like. I like Plexamp’s playback so much more than the regular Plex app’s music handling, but the list limitation is seriously frustrating.

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Eh, we imagined there would be people who would complain about it.

At least some of those people go on to discover all the new ways you can offline music, like keeping a smart playlist of loved tracks which you haven’t listened to in the past month (this keeps the download fresh).

But sure, we knew there would be a minority of people who wanted all of their music available all the time.

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My playlists are not nearly “all my music”, and I understand why it’s easier for you to minimize and mischaracterize my experience than it is for you to listen to feedback
but that doesn’t make it a good look for you.

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Please don’t be oversensitive about this. We will support downloading larger playlists in the future.

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This is great! Can you get a little more specific on “future”" Are we talking about a year or 5 years from now?

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Not sure, but definitely a good bit of work.

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Could you at least make it more explicit in the plexamp client that this is intended behavior for the time being? I too would like to be able to download longer playlists, but thought it was a bug that it wasnt downloading it all due to:

  1. The settings let you state you want to reserve up to 32/64 gb of cached songs.
    I made sure to have 20+ gb free on my phone, and the same playlist on my iphone via itunes syncing is about 20gb.
  2. Sometimes, after deleting and re-downloading, the downloaded list will say it’s full length instead of just 24 hours worth.

Edit: the download dialog does show that 100% is 24 hours, but still doesnt say why that is the maximum, it’s as easy to overlook as it is to mistake it’s calculating it wrong

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