Plexamp - Expose Style Radio when library Genres set to 'None'

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Continuing the discussion from PlexAmp - Style Radio should be enabled when source library Genres is set to None:

Querying whether the fix:

  • (Library) Don’t expose genre radio if user has “none” selected for genre source.

from Plex Media Server - #410 by Ridley should have addressed this.

Steps taken to check:

  • Update Plex Media Server to 1.22.1.4228
  • Update Music library, setting Genres to ‘None’, allowing scan to complete then running Refresh All Metadata
  • Open Plexamp for Android (version 3.4.4): Stations list ‘Genre Radio’ where I would expect ‘Style Radio’
  • Force stop Plexamp for Android
  • Open Plexamp for Android (version 3.4.4): Stations list ‘Genre Radio’ where I would expect ‘Style Radio’
  • Open Plexamp for Windows (version 3.4.4): Stations list ‘Genre Radio’ where I would expect ‘Style Radio’

Changing Genres back to ‘Plex Music’ causes ‘Style Radio’ to replace ‘Genre Radio’ in Plexamp.

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The fix was merged into mainline.

I think there might have been a misunderstanding here :thinking: The setting has three values:

  • None: Genres are not read from tags or Plex Music, but you can set them manually.
  • Plex Music: Genres are read from Plex Music cloud data.
  • Embedded Tags: Genres are read from embedded tags.

The radio logic used to be: use genre radio if we’re not reading genre data from the cloud (because it was assumed if you had it in tags you’d prefer them).

The new radio logic is: use genre radio if you’ve selected None (manual genres), otherwise use style radio.

However, that seems backwards from the release note…

Let me flip this around a bit…it would seem like someone would want style radios in all cases EXCEPT when they are reading their precious embedded tags, right?

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Agreed.

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Edited: I spoke too soon.

This has been driving me crazy for a while, and this thread helps make a bit more sense of the behavior. One clarification based on my testing:

The None value DOES read and update album genre tags from ID3, while also enabling Genre Radio mode in PlexAmp. I tested it by updating local tags and refreshing in None mode and it still updates. It DOES NOT propagate those genres to the artists, however. That didn’t happen until I switched back to Embedded Tags.

I tag all my music locally, and never really want the MusicBrainz/LastFM values. I wish there was a way to have Genre Radio and get the behavior of Embedded Tags. It seems the the two options should be unlinked.

I still can’t figure out how to get Artists Genres in PlexAmp. Even when I switched to None and got Genre Radio, artist pages still show useless Pop/Rock styles.

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There will be a fix in an upcoming server release which shows genres radios when the selected option is Embedded Tags (which makes more sense than None).

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Looking good after updating to server version 1.23.3.4692. Thank you.

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thanks for noticing!