Plexamp Starts By Itself

I don’t understand what you’re asking for. Pause and Stop are totally different actions.

Meaning how do I stop this from happening? I use android auto so the music will keep on pausing, is there a way to build/put auto stop in the app?

if you’re using android auto then i’m not sure i understand how you’re annoyed by the notification on the phone. if you open your phone, you can stop the music if you care to.

@elan Is there a way to have the app auto-stop after a certain amount of time?

As I tried to explain before, that’s undesirable. People would lose their play queues unexpectedly.

Hi @elan

This problem has been bugging me for months, the notification kept coming back, even if I restarted my phone. I’d disabled all notifications for Plexamp (Android OnePlus 6) to work around it, obviously meant I had no notifications when I was using Plexamp either.

All of this because I didn’t know I should stop playback and not pause it.

I didn’t know a stop feature existed because you’ve hidden it behind a long press of another button. This is a really bad UX In my opinion, can stop please have its own button?

Many thanks
Dan

Edit: a Reddit thread discussing the same issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/njlhb7/plexamp_notification_appearing_constantly_even

No :laughing:

There might be some changes we can do to prevent the notification from showing up in some circumstances, but I’m not convinced it’s universally bad behavior.

The other weird thing is that if I start the app in a paused state on my Pixel phone, it doesn’t create a notification. Does it behave the same for you?

Bottom line—I’d like to get to the bottom of the behavior, but adding a stop button isn’t a solution, especially since I’m not convinced the behavior bothers everyone and it’s idiomatic. You know how to stop music now.

@elan, thanks for getting back to me.

I also don’t think it’s a universally bad behaviour, in fact I think how it’s working now is actually correct, consider these two scenarios:

Scenario A: I pause playback for a moment, intending to restart it shortly, the notification persists, enabling me to continue playback easily without going back in to the app.

Scenario B: I stop the music with no immediate intention to resume playback, the notification disappears.

The notification is behaving how I want it to, perhaps dismissing a paused notification could remember that it has been dismissed and not return until the main UI has been launched and playback has been resumed?

Ultimately though, pause and stop are two very different actions with different consequences and I don’t think the latter should be hidden away from the user, certainly not an undocumented long-press “easter egg” style action, it reminds me a bit of having to tap the build info in Android settings multiple times to enable developer mode.

Perhaps you could include a close button in the notification like YouTube?

I only know how to stop playback because you have explained about the hidden feature in the UI. I’ve been using Plexamp since the first public launch and I was completely oblivious to the fact that it is possible to long-press the play button to stop. You must surely agree the discoverability of the stop feature is bad? So bad that I felt it necessary to disable all Plexamp notifications to get around the problem.

If the notification isn’t present and I launch the app in a previously paused state the notification doesn’t appear until I press play. If I leave it in a paused state dismiss/close the app, it is impossible to get rid of the notification permanently. The notification will appear straight after booting the phone, I can dismiss it, but it will return at some point. I’m unable to identify what triggers the return of the notification, sometimes it will return near instantly, other times it’ll be gone for an hour or more and come back for seemingly no reason.

I hope this info helps, I do also hope you’ll reconsider the accessibility of the stop action somehow.

Thanks again

I appreciate the conversation, you’re making solid points and doing so eloquently and persuasively.

Yeah, I think the root issue is the zombie notification. DM me if you’d like to try an APK with a change.

Spotify, Apple Music, and TIDAL all seem to not have an explicitly shown stop action, so it’s not totally out of line.

Again, I think the root cause is the zombie notification; let’s focus on that.

Please reach out if you’d like to try something.

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