Problem with metadata thetvdb

… that fails 100% of the time OUTSIDE the EPG when the Correct Name and the Name Plex uses are two different names.
… that also should tell you something of importance.
… thank goodness FileBot still knows what it’s job is, eh?

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Suffice it to say, we’re both well aware of each other’s position on this. If I haven’t made it abundantly clear by this point, I’m aware that I’m technically wrong here. However, it’s due to my willfulness, not ignorance, so I’m okay with it. And I still feel right, so there’s that.

What hurtful name? Person who downloads torrents? I’m not knocking you for downloading torrents. I know lots who do, in fact I bet half of all Plex users or more do. I was simply saying that for people who need stuff to be done in the background, or who aren’t at their computer when they add things, things like FileBot, which I know is a general purpose program, but the only people I’ve ever heard reference it are those who use auto torrent things to automatically get anything that matches whatever criteria they set. The point being that you want it to work while you aren’t there. That’s not a requirement for most everyone aside from those who are downloading in bulk like that. I personally compress my stuff pretty tightly, others don’t, that’s fine, I don’t thing those who have 50mbps files are wrong or bad, just that they do things differently than I do.

BUT
you are saying to the OP that they are naming their stuff incorrectly. Which is NOT true. they are naming with the same structure that Plex itself uses. It’s A Bug. Bugs eventually get fixed. IF they need it to be consistent now, then yes, name without the year, but putting a band-aid on it stops the bleeding now, but in the future will leave their library in a way they don’t want. It’s a problem not with how they are doing it, but with a BUG. So they have the option to wait it out & continue naming it the way they are, knowing that for the time being it will cause them an extra step, or do it without the (YEAR) so it Auto-matches but leaves their library inconsistent. Either way is an acceptable choice, each with their own negatives, it just depends on how those scales balance for that individual person

If I understand the plex staff is aware and this problem has been present for 1 year with the api v3 and nothing has been done?

So we can “hope” that the problem will be solved with the api v4 or the plex agent overlay for the series?

If a staff member could answer this subject…

I’ve used Sonarr for the past 3-4 years and Filebot before that. The same result either way. I’ve had no metadata problems.
Today I did experiment with Top Gear and Plex did not work right with TVDB.
I’ll stick with Plex’s advice of naming the shows the same way they appear in TVDB.
It would be good if we could include the TVDB ID like the new Movie agent allows. I assume the new TV agent will do that. Anyone know?

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Now it’s doing this. New server. Just like… I really don’t care :smiley: Its like, why do you need metadata.

May I ask what the Agent is and what the priority stacking in Settings - Server - Agents for TV Shows?

It’s not right that nothing will pull metadata / posters unless there is something grossly wrong.

Everything shown below matched by itself.

But is it named with the Show Name (YEAR) or just the Show Name? Everything used to match fine with the (YEAR), which is what this thread is about. Plex DVR uses the Show Name (YEAR) format but sometimes doesn’t automatch anymore.

Originally (pre TheTVDB API overhaul),

  1. Showname - original airing (The Flash)
  2. Showname (year) - when the name was reused. (The Flash (2014))

TheTVDB changed their API; difficulty ensued.
Engineering tweaked it as best they could.

The need was clear that a new scanner was unavoidable.

  1. The existing was slow
  2. The existing was prone to failure if names not perfect

The new Plex TV Scanner (in forum preview now) effort is the resolution.

Until the new scanner is in the mainstream, certain rules must still be obeyed:

  1. Name the files as per TheTVDB
  2. Plex Dance the series if you rename it. Renaming in-situ has a 50/50 chance at best.

Once the new scanner is mainstream, still name them Per TheTVDB.

It is more intelligent but junk is still junk.

Also keep a keen eye out for embedded names in MP4 files (they will sneak up on you)

Hello,

You want this parameter information ?


so the problem should be solved with the new Plex TV Scanner agent right ?

I’m testing the beta & it has no problem with the Show Name (YEAR) format. It has some nice features being developed, like an option to turn on season titles, my only real gripe so far is that the artwork pulled is weird, like it has some of the stuff from TVdb but not all, it seems to default to a lot of bad artwork, like the ones that are a DVD cover with the PG in the corner & the word DVD on them. Or artwork that is too wide & gets cut off on the sides. & it doesn’t seem to respect the Prefer Artwork in Library Language setting like the old one, giving 3 of 4 Anime with Japanese covers even when there’s an English one in the options, but I’m sure that, at least, will be worked out before it’s officially released.

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Yes that info but he’s asking @9705, who has no cover art.

same problem with new install for tv show
By the way, why plex don’t use a agent for Anidb for animes instead of forcing use thetvdb ?

I’m going to speak up here, AS A FELLOW USER :smiley:

There are changes happening at TheTVDB which I’m not overjoyed with.
I’m discovering that long-stable media naming isn’t valid anymore.

Over the past few days, I’ve renamed 11 TV series. It’s a pain in the … to resolve.

The steps I take are to look at the match scores Plex gets when manually matching (search, not auto). If it’s not well above 90%, i go look at the TVDB and figure out what they changed the naming to be.

In every case so far – It’s been either

  1. Add the year to the series
    -or-
  2. Remove the year from the series.

It looks like they’re preparing for the 2021 editions . There are a number of new shows which are remakes of the originals.

In these cases, when we want the older, it’s guesswork. Sometimes they put the year in the older series name and sometimes the newer.

I keep trying with FileBot until I get a good hit and then let it do the rest.

It seems we’re all kinda stuck right now because it’s changing – concurrently with the new scanner coming out.

As FYI, (Plex Hat On),

The new Plex TV Series scanner & agent works really well. It’s in preview so it is getting close. There are some things to be worked out but it hasn’t mismatched anything I’ve tried so far.

I will hang in there until they get it ready (which has gotta be close :wink: )

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I’ve had Sonarr doing my show naming for a couple of years now and, so far, haven’t had a problem.
Filebot also worked well for me but that was prior to theTVDB’s latest changes.

Thanks for the investigation, but it still seems a bit odd.

For example, with Game of Thrones I can still not make it match with or without a date. Only the ID works)

As I mentioned in some of the other threads, a search on the Plex TVDB mirror does include the correct match in the results returned from a search

Of course I do not know the ins and outs of exactly how the Plex TV Scanner works, and how it decides what should be shown in the match window.

But one would think if the result comes back from the TVDB api it should appear as an option in the search results.

But yeah I know… wait for the New agent (or use it in preview) or put up with fixing matches using the ID

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