"Season 20XX" seasons result in incorrect matching

Both of the following files match to Season 2017 E2 - MOTD - 12th August 2017 despite the fact one of them isn’t even in the same folder? I don’t have a Season 2018 for some reason?

/TV/Match of the Day/Season 2017/Match of the Day - 2017-08-12 [HDTV-720p X264 8bit 5.1ch AC3]-VERUM.mkv

/TV/Match of the Day/Season 2018/Match of the Day - 2018-08-11 [HDTV-1080p X264 8bit 5.1ch AC3]-VERUM.mkv

Looks like Plex is misreading the file info. Not sure what level of knowledge you’re at with Plex naming conventions… so take this with a grain of salt. I always err on the side of caution in such cases, and name my files to match precisely what the TVDB says.

In this case I’d name the file “MOTD - 11th August 2018 [anything inserted here doesn’t matter].mkv” and it should match correctly.

My assumption is that your files are being autonamed? Do you have any control over how they get named when they come in?

I get your point but I wouldn’t say my file names are wrong… would you? I mean if Plex can’t reverse a date to get a filename for something that has the date in the episode title, that’s pretty dire…

I have control over the naming yes so I can make changes.

Baring in mind thetvdb has this set like it’s a daily show…

EDIT: Actually I don’t have control of the naming on this one. Regardless, the Plex scanner has it wrong here in my opinion.

I wouldn’t say they’re wrong either… It’s probably just in a different language than Plex expects to see. If all things were equal, you wouldn’t be here with the issue.

How are the files coming in? DVR? Download? External purchase?

This one throws me for a loop a little bit, because the seasons aren’t numbered like traditional shows, opting rather to use a year. I’ll have to let a more experienced person chime in.

In the meantime, I solve all of my issues by referring back to the incredibly hard line formats they present as acceptable:
https://support.plex.tv/articles/categories/media-preparation/naming-and-organizing-tv-shows/

I also use FileBot to rename things in bulk to be compatible. It references the TVDB, and is an excellent tool to put you on an equal playing field.

If I may augment, FileBot is pretty much the defacto tool of choice and standard for dealing with series and movies.

It takes the names you give it, validates against TheTVDB or TMDB, picks the best results, gives you the option to correct as appropriate in case of ambiguity, then renames and moves (if needed) into proper structure for Plex. There is a {plex} renaming rule built into FileBot.

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I understand your point but lets just say this particular automation doesn’t allow for that and that Plex should detect the file as is with the current naming structure. Also my current structure is already compliant according to the naming convention of daily shows.

Season 2018 files shouldn’t be anywhere near Season 2017 stuff. This seems like a scanner bug…

I know that Plex pays little to no regard to the Season folders. Scans are almost purely based on file name, and the name of the show from the folder. You can place files from different seasons in different folders and if named correctly, they’ll pick up and organize themselves thusly.

This is not to insult the way you’re doing it. I’ve found this is the case with normal seasons and episode numbers on non-daily shows that this is the case. Several times I’ve had a “special” accidentally organized by season folder, and it will pick up and organize into the Specials in Plex.

Respectfully,

Just how smart should PMS be? It’s your media.

If you’re finding specific examples which I can recreate, I will gladly submit a bug once I reproduce it

Chuck, I am following the naming convention. Plex should be smart enough to follow it’s own convention.

The specific example is in the opening post. Do you want more examples because I can provide more filename examples if you like? This happens with all shows that use the Season XXXX format.

Plex Naming for daily shows according to this link:
TV Shows/ShowName/Season XX/ShowName – YYYY-MM-DD.ext

My naming (following the format):
/TV/Match of the Day/Season 2018/Match of the Day - 2018-08-11 [HDTV-1080p X264 8bit 5.1ch AC3]-VERUM.mkv

Are you saying this is not a bug?

Let me find out.

I’ll go create a bunch and see what happens.

If I can match cleanly, then we need to find out why your system isn’t doing it right.

Thanks Chuck, appreciate it.

FYI, I am running PMS 1.13.5.5332, Linux amd64.

Using your file,

[chuck@lizum Season 2018.108]$ pwd
/vie/tv3/Match of the Day/Season 2018
[chuck@lizum Season 2018.109]$ ls -la
total 12
drwxr-xr-x 2 chuck chuck 4096 Sep 14 16:31 ./
drwxr-xr-x 3 chuck chuck 4096 Sep 14 16:30 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 chuck chuck  142 Sep 14 16:31 Match of the Day - 2018-08-11 [HDTV-1080p X264 8bit 5.1ch AC3]-VERUM.mkv
[chuck@lizum Season 2018.110]$ 

Thanks for looking at this Chuck. If you have no files in Plex and then add a new library containing these 2 files below, do you see it match to Season 2017 E2 - MOTD - 12th August 2017?

/TV/Match of the Day/Season 2017/Match of the Day - 2017-08-12 [HDTV-720p X264 8bit 5.1ch AC3]-VERUM.mkv

/TV/Match of the Day/Season 2018/Match of the Day - 2018-08-11 [HDTV-1080p X264 8bit 5.1ch AC3]-VERUM.mkv

[chuck@lizum Match of the Day.116]$ ls -R
.:
Season 2017/  Season 2018/

./Season 2017:
Match of the Day - 2017-08-12 [HDTV-720p X264 8bit 5.1ch AC3]-VERUM.mkv

./Season 2018:
Match of the Day - 2018-08-11 [HDTV-1080p X264 8bit 5.1ch AC3]-VERUM.mkv
[chuck@lizum Match of the Day.117]$ 

Not seeing an issue here yet.

At which folder did you point the library in Plex?
It must be /TV
and not /TV/Match of the Day

Correct,

The TV library points to the top level directory containing all the series.

[chuck@lizum tv3.118]$ ls
Ancient Aliens/                 Looking/                              Stargate Universe/
Animaniacs/                     Looney Tunes/                         Star Trek The Animated Series/
As Time Goes By/                Marvel's The Defenders/               Tesla's Death Ray A Murder Declassified/
Batman/                         MASH/                                 The Andy Griffith Show/
Blue Planet II/                 Match of the Day/                     The Flash (1996)/
Bugs Bunny (1938-2004)/         Merlin/                               The Flintstones/
Chicago Justice/                Mystery Diners/                       The Golden Girls/
Code Black/                     Mythbusters/                          The Jetsons/
Cosmos/                         No Man Left Behind/                   The Outer Limits/
Curb Your Enthusiasm/           NOVA/                                 The Red Skelton Show/
Discovery Channel/              NOVA scienceNOW/                      The Science Channel/
FireFly/                        Numb3rs/                              The Secret Life of the Airport/
Fringe/                         Planet Earth/                         The Wild Wild West/
Galactica 1980/                 Queer Britain/                        UNLOCKING THE GREAT PYRAMID/
Highlander/                     Rise of the Continents/               Vietnam in HD/
History Channel/                Roswell/                              Wacky Races/
History Channel Documentaries/  seaQuest DSV/                         Warehouse 13/
Human Planet/                   Sense8/                               What You Can't See/
Killjoys/                       Space Odyssey Voyage To The Planets/  When We Left Earth The NASA Missions/
Kyle XY/                        Stargate Atlantis/                    William Shatner's Star Trek Memories/
London Spy/                     Stargate SG-1/
[chuck@lizum tv3.119]$ 

@MediaHorder

It behaving as it should now?

ye i don’t use file bot anymore i get the correct matchings i just use lets say the walking dead S01E1 like that not how file bot does.

You have a show that matches with TheTVDB. In this case, you HAVE to use their matching criteria which is season and episode numbers, not the date. If you want to use dates, try matching to TheMovieDB instead.

I’m afraid not. I am using unionFS to merge a local read-writable directory with a read-only cloud mount so my files begin with the following…

/mnt/unionfs/Media/TV/TV/etc...

Not sure if this has anything to do with it but it shouldn’t…