I’m trying to get Sonic Analysis to complete for one very large (+2K tracks) album in my library, but it seems that once it finishes only a handful of tracks actually have the analysis complete. I’ve toggled SA on my music library at least twice now to force a re-scan, and it doesn’t seem like more tracks from that album are getting SA data, only the same ones that had it before.
I had a prior track title issue where I did the Plex Shuffle to try and fix it, and all the tracks had SA data before I moved them out and back in again, so I know it’s capable. I kinda don’t want to do that dance again, since i’m afraid it will drop all my titles and re-naming +2k tracks is daunting.
Is there a way to force SA on a track-by-track basis? Or even on a single album basis?
I can upload logs once the current SA re-scan is complete to see if it’s stuck on something.
Is there anything else i can do in the meantime to make sure this latest SA run works? I just want my sweet fades back on all my VG remixes. TT ___ TT
Sonic Analysis doesn’t run 24/7 until it completes if you have it running as a scheduled task only. Do you also have it selected to run when media is added? If not the analysis is probably not complete. I have mine to run during maintenance only and it took a good couple nights to run all the tracks because it stops and starts in relation to the maintenance window…
I’ve got it set to run as a task and as media is added, so it should finish out whenever.
I’m not sure if it’s incrementally scanning this album during the maintenance period too, but i would expect more of the 2k album to have SA data each day then, and i don’t see that currently (checking sound prints in plexamp and the “get info” tab in desktop).
Whelp, I tried moving one track out of the album manually to see if adding it back would get my SA data, but that just gave me trashcan syndrome that has now been fixed.
I think I’m going to store this album in a separate folder outside my main music one and just add it in as a second directory. Hopefully that will ease the burden of a single directory with so many entries. I’m bummed that I’ll prolly lose all my metadata ratings and playlist entries I’ve been building though
I’m still open to any advice to make this situation better.
So removing the entire album (deleting through plex), clearing trash/optimizing database, and adding in all 2k tracks back in does NOT work, and now no tracks have sonic analysis data. At least this latest update seems to fix the blank title issue when I add new tracks into this album.
Currently trying to add tracks back in ~20 at a time to see if it’s simply overloading the SA process, but each addition of tracks rescans the entire album (even if the previous has SA data), so i wonder where the cumulative tipping point is where the process finally breaks.
I’m thinking about trying to make a few separate albums (OC Remix-a, -b, ect) so that they stay separate for processing, then combine/merge them all together once the SA process completes.
Wish this didn’t have to be such a difficult process, considering at the start all these tracks had SA data (or at least if the logs has some kind of concrete error to go off of).
Followup: I’ve been able to get a base of about 200 tracks in the original album, then i can make an “OC Remix_A” album to bulk analyze another~200 tracks. I can them merge “_A” and the original together without losing SA data.
I’ve also been able to slowly move all 200 of the “_A” tracks i made back into the original folder (~20-30 at a time) where they will immediately lose SA data, only to magically repopulate overnight (sometimes over two nights). I have no idea what is happening during the maintenance period that’s making this process work, but at this point I won’t question it. Interestingly, manual analysis and rescan of the album to prompt SA will not give me SA data, only over the maintenance period. Not sure if i can replicate what’s happening overnight manually, but i’ve yet to dig into the logs to see what might be going on.
Also interesting, i can sometime slip in ~10 tracks without doing the whole re-tag/re-analyze process, and it will still give me SA data if left overnight/2 nights.
Working theory so far is that ~400 tracks is where SA tops out at, and perhaps the 2 day processing time is needed for new additions over the 400 limit to populate. It is tedious to wait 2 days for 10-20 songs, but thus far its working. Worst case, i guess i’ll just have some extra albums in my folder structure if 400 tracks is the processing threshold.
One Month later and i have about 750 tracks in there with SA. It seems to be that I can add batches of about 50 tracks at at time, and the magic ingredient is to analyze the album an leave overnight. I’m still not sure why it needs to be left overnight, but at this point, it feels like I can just keep adding everything back in slowly and I have a path forward to getting it all processed with SA data.
Hitting a bit of a roadblock again, still around 750 (I deleted some tracks I wasn’t fond of). Seems adding new batches of 20 tracks is hit or miss lately on wether or not I wake up to having Sonic Analysis data. Seems hitting analyze was not the magic bullet I once thought.
Since there’s been no reply to this thread, I suppose this will serve as a journal of my progress and what I’ve tried. Right now, I’m making sure I’ve emptied trash, cleaned bundles, and optimized before bed. If the SA data doesn’t populate in 2 days, I’ll try a new set of 20 tracks. It’s slow progress to get all 2k tracks back, but it’s progress.
If this method fails, I’ll go back to making a separate _A album and then merging them together, and maybe moving the tracks back into the original folder if I feel lucky.
So i went ahead and did the _A album with 500 tracks, and that works as intended (did find 1 track without SA strangely in the middle of the pack, but it got fixed overnight). I also added 10 tracks to the original album and just let it sit for a while while i listened and rated the _A tracks.
Seems time might be the magic ingredient, as those 10 tracks at some point during the last week got SA data, as I’ve found out this morning. I’ll add another 10 and start tracking this more closely.
Now it’ll be a matter of getting all the _A tagged tracks back into the correct album and seeing if they lose all that SA data in the process.
No dice, let 20 tracks sit for almost two weeks in the original folder with no SA data generated (about ~730 tracks in the original album at that point). Moved it back to _A and it populates (that folder is ~400 tracks).
There’s some kind of limit where the SA generation tops out at somewhere past 700.
I suppose i’ll keep adding to _A and merge once i’ve filled it up and start a _B folder.
Still looking for help solving this, since at one point this whole album (+2K) had SA data before I regrettably decided to do the plex dance.
