Unable to display long playlists, Recently Added, or Artists in Android Auto

I tested yesterday, hoping something had changed. Still broken. I wonder why Plex devs were replying, and then went dark.

Yeah, this still exists in the latest version. Presumably, this means that the underlying Google libraries they have to compile against are still exhibiting the bug, and I know Google is not super-responsive to externally-reported niche bugs like this unless it ends up being a major security vulnerability.

In the meantime, I’d love to hear that the Plex devs are maybe just looking at a workaround. In my case, for example, I have Smart Playlists that easily exceed the 500 song limit. It would be awesome if I could just ā€œlimitā€ their size at any single time to 500 songs and know that it would work in the car. That wouldn’t resolve the bug for others, but I’m never in the car long enough that I care to be limited to only 500 songs in a playlist. Maybe they have some other creative ideas about how they can still function mostly as intended despite the bug in the Google library?

As for why the Plex devs stopped responding, they were getting some rather heated attacks in this thread. I can’t blame them for dropping it. Plus, the thread has become an ad for Yatse, which is just sleazy since it really doesn’t compare in functionality to Plex, and doesn’t even help with long playlists at all since it doesn’t even expose your Plex playlists.

In the meantime, I am still forcing my phone to stay back on the old release of Plex: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/plex-inc/plex/plex-7-10-0-8875-release/
It’s really buggy in a few frustrating ways, but it can at least play my smart playlists.
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Re: Yatse. I don’t think it’s all ā€œsleazyā€ for people to share a workaround to access Plex content via Android Auto. You are right it does not show playlists. But at least I can see a list of artists and albums using it. I can’t do that with the latest version of Plex.

I’m just appreciative someone shared that workaround, and I hope one day I won’t need it because Plex has fixed its integration with Android Auto.

Perhaps a poor choice of words on my part. Since I had to pay for Yatse just to try it and find out it didn’t do playlists, I was bothered by it.

I’m always wary of people shilling for other paid products in a competitor’s forum. In the context of why Plex stopped posting in this thread, it’s understandable.
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Well, people are not happy (heated) because a feature that we paid money to use, and altered our cars to be able to use, stopped working. Then a non-convincing answer was given, blaming google, for something that worked and still does in an old version of the app? It’s tough when every other app works properly displaying playlists, and long lists, and Plex does not.

Then going dark and ignoring users for months on end. I get it, we could not possible understand how complicated it is… SO…of course people are going to try and find a work around. We want to use this in our cars. We build everything around Plex music, and it does not work as intended. It’s not too much to ask to drop in here and give an explanation. Do we need to abandon this? Is there a fix coming?

Edit: I don’t think it’s ā€œUnderstandableā€ They have a job, we paid them.

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This is really fun …
I appointed Yatse only to show that the case of long lists
it is a false problem because the albums (which are shown on Yatse) go well beyond the limit of 500 items. Never talked about playlists (which I have never used) and as for advertising, if you look on the forum, the developer himself does it.
If you didn’t want to spend the 4 coffees just go to the app’s website or forum and find all the details.
Amazing that the developers of Plex get irritated if we propose alternative solutions … as I said before I suspect that in their cars they use Carplay and Prism … it is from December 2018 that I have reported issues that have not been resolved or have got worse should I also defend them?

I’ll have to try on my system today. I gave up on Plex for AA as well.

I could reliably boot my phone, use Plex exactly 1 time and then it would go into this stalled mode trying to load a playlist.

Large Libraries are a No-Go for sure.

I also went back to just playing music via bluetooth since that’s been rock solid. Go figure.

And – I also had another thread where a dev replied and asked me to get logs - which I did. When I asked where I should make them available, the dev never replied. (went MIA)

Anyway - I’ll try this today now that I’ve see updates to this thread and report back.

UPDATE: Nope. Still breaks the same way. One use after a phone reboot – and then after a connection cycle (car off/on or unplug/plug-in) the unit just stalls trying to fetch data.

Those who appreciate the work of developers recommend staying at a nine-month old version :upside_down_face:

Got a version number and APK location to side-load this old version?

That would be interesting to install and see if the current problem disappears.

https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/plex-inc/plex/plex-7-10-0-8875-release/

back to the future

Is there an offical annoncement from Plex from what they have abandon Plex Music for Android Auto? After 9 month without doing anything or at least try if they did, i think we can say that this is long gone?

I didn’t find any documenation on what Plex have try to fix the issue or try anything tu resolve the issue except at the begenning of that threath a guy named jesusmc who went silence very quick after many complain about the current issue.

Yep, and this is the important answer that we never got.

It’s totally believable to me that this is a bug introduced by the newer Google API library, but either the library was adjusted to prefer another mechanism for longer lists, or the library has a bug. If it’s got a bug, was it reported so that maybe we can push on Google for an update?
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For the spinning circle issue, it seems a regression introduced a couple of days ago.:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I raised this issue as a new thread in the beta forums and there was some brief discussion around it. What I was told by jesusmc is that there is no way to display more than 500 items in a list, and there also isn’t any way to make multiple calls or multiple pages in the new Android Auto, so the devs aren’t quite sure how to deal with lists longer than 500 items and were discussing internally.

After that things went completely silent again though, and it’s been more than a month. I think it’s pretty embarrassing that a major bug like this has been left in a production product so long, especially when an easy workaround (revert to the 7.10.8875 method until a longer-term solution is found) exists.

To be fair though, I think the ā€œspinning circleā€ issue in the post you quoted actually is a different issue and a regression. In the latest beta, I cannot load any Plex content in AA at all. Immediately upon loading I get an infinite spinning circle and can’t even get to the main menu items. This is a separate issue than the 500+ list item spinning circle, and is and issue that was in earlier betas that got fixed.

If this is true, how do other app makers handle it?

No clue, but there are clearly ways to make it work.

Aside from reverting to the old functionality, one other suggestion from the beta thread was to allow at least Playlists to be played or shuffled from the playlist item rather than making people have to navigate inside the playlist and pick a track. This would at least get long playlists functional.

If you read the whole thread I was referring to something else … and he either doesn’t read what has in front of his nose or like I said he uses us as a tree to piss the dog.
I listed all the issues that have been tormenting us for almost 1 year and he brings out what happens with the latest beta … oh please…

It certainly it ridiculous that this has gone on this long, and frankly even more ridiculous that programmers don’t know what to do about it. It’s simple. Either catch the exception or test for the limit before trying to lose a too large list. Additionally, start out with ā€œPlay Allā€ and ā€œSearchā€ options at the top. Done.

Other apps have worked around the AA limitations. Yatse, mentioned earlier in this thread, certainly has. I can see a list of artists, albums, and recently added albums in my Plex library using it via AA.

In fact we should start from this assumption: other apps do NOT have Plex issues (resume playback, folders that do not open … do you need anything else?) If I were a developer I would ask myself why …