Can we combine the movie "Collection" feature requests into one big one?

I did a little digging (looking at posted) and noticed that there are at least 9 different posts related to improving collections specifically for movies. If we could, it would show that this is probably one of the single most requested features right now at over 2,468 likes (as of this post) and over 24k views of the various conversations.

Post|Likes|Comments|Views|Original Date
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Multiple Cuts Of Movie| 648 | 130 | 6,000 | August 2012
Auto Movie Collections| 275 | 72 | 2,200 | August 2012
Movie Collections| 888 | 321 | 10,900 | September 2013
Virtual Dynamic Sections| 134 | 37 | 1,400 | September 2013
Movie Grouping/Collections| 37 | 26 | 350 | September 2014
Proper Movie Collections| 15 | 3 | 108 | May 2014
Collection overhaul ideas| 526 | 117 | 4,000 | March 2015
Collections inline with Movies| 1 | 4 | 22 | March 2016
Movie ā€œCollectionsā€ current implementation is not useful| 2 | 3 | 32 | October 2016
Total|2,526|713|25,012|

Note: If I missed any posts, just drop me a message (or post a comment) with a link to it and I’ll update the table above to include it.

I recall first starting to use Plex and being dismayed at how they handle collections as filters. A more useless implementation couldn’t have been conceived.

Their system of collecting suggestions seems to have as its motive to dissuade discussion of it by pointing out that someone has already asked for it in a previous topic and that you should instead show your support by liking the dead topic.

Why collecting movies into collections in the main view is beyond Plex’s means to implement is beyond me, when obviously a) they realized they needed something, ie they implemented a filter to this effect and b) they obviously had the resources to implement the useless filter.

Kodi has an excellent implementation of collections and on the TV I use Kodi I enjoy its existence immensely.

Your first thread ā€œMultiple Cuts Of Movieā€ is not the same as all the other collections threads.

Multiple Cuts is talking about grouping a Directors Cut and Theatrical Cut or maybe various resolutions of the same movie under a single movie entry and being able to choose which one to view.

The collections feature (and making it more prominent is about grouping all the Star Wars movies together or all the Marvel super hero movies together, or making a children movies collection, etc.

@kamererhouse, fair point on the ā€œMultiple Cuts of Movieā€ - it is not the same however it is still pretty close as it does relate to the idea of a ā€œcollectionā€ of some object within the Movies area :slight_smile: Ideally a collection could be either or both at the same time.

Wow! Yeah I agree, this feature should be prioritised.

@ravensorb – They are unrelated. Especially from an implementation standpoint.

  • Movie Cuts are more like the extra content tags where you have multiple files under a single movie listing. i.e. -featurettes, -shorts, -deleted, etc. Plex needs a way to recognize and let users select those separate files.
  • Collections have already been implemented and are about grouping completely different movies into a single ā€œcollectionā€. Most of the related threads are about redesigning the existing feature so it’s more usable.

@kamererhouse said:

  • Collections have already been implemented and are about grouping completely different movies into a single ā€œcollectionā€. Most of the related threads are about redesigning the existing feature so it’s more usable.
    The current ā€˜collections’ filter looks like it was assigned to an intern that preferred to be working on something else at the time. Totally useless. It took me following a step by step guide off the internet to even find it the first time.

Didn’t they admit recently that they didn’t think it was something many people really wanted?

Suggests very little attention is actually paid to the feature requests forum (not sure why that would be a surprise, doesn’t seem to be much attention paid to the users at all).

@SteveMcNally said:
Didn’t they admit recently that they didn’t think it was something many people really wanted?

Suggests very little attention is actually paid to the feature requests forum (not sure why that would be a surprise, doesn’t seem to be much attention paid to the users at all).

Doesn’t seem to be much attention paid to the users at all?
or
Doesn’t seem to be much attention to the paying users at all?

Does anyone have any thoughts on why kodi can cope with movie collections and TV seasons and plex can’t. I don’t understand the in’s and outs of programming, and so I don’t know what is holding them back. They even have a ā€œuse collection dataā€ option in library settings (which I cannot get to work as it is) so why not use it like everyone wants them to.

My opinion is that they are chasing new users with new usage cases and less invested in refining current uses. I’ve seen tons of e-mails about Cloud Plex, new photo timelines, etc. none of which I’m particularly interested in, but seem geared towards capturing new users who would then presumably buy a new Plex Pass which translates into revenue for Plex.

Since I’ve already paid, keeping me happy would be further down on the list. What’s the worst I could do, stop using my already paid for lifetime subscription, ā€œoh noes!ā€.

I could really use the collections feature, especially now that I’ve completed my Star Wars movies. They’re spread all over the movie library now, instead of in a nicely devoted collections view. :confused:

Currently it’s implemented as a filter, which is essentially useless (I never personally use filters). Nobody I’ve seen knows why they didn’t add it in the main view where it’d actually be useful.

I haven’t found a thread for this, seems a really simple request though.

I would KILL for a checkbox to hide any collection with only one item.

It seems half my movies have a collection named on TMDB. There are also quite a few that have awful sequels that I will never add to my library so they don’t need a collection. They should be reserved for groups of movies within the library.

@Wperry1 said:
I haven’t found a thread for this, seems a really simple request though.

I would KILL for a checkbox to hide any collection with only one item.

It seems half my movies have a collection named on TMDB. There are also quite a few that have awful sequels that I will never add to my library so they don’t need a collection. They should be reserved for groups of movies within the library.

I don’t understand what you are describing. Are you saying collections were created automatically for you based on TMDB data? Can you list a few popular movie examples? The only collections in my database are those I had to create manually.

@kamererhouse said:
I don’t understand what you are describing. Are you saying collections were created automatically for you based on TMDB data? Can you list a few popular movie examples? The only collections in my database are those I had to create manually.

you can check this feature in the respective agent settings (settings > server > agents). Pick the ā€œThe Movie Databaseā€ entry and click settings… there you’ll find the 1st checkbox ā€œUse collection info from The Movie Databaseā€.

Personally I’m not a big fan and prefer setting the collection names manually (e.g. if I’ve only got the original Shrek movie, I don’t need a collection of it for the Shrek series not in my libraries).

@tom80H said:
Personally I’m not a big fan and prefer setting the collection names manually (e.g. if I’ve only got the original Shrek movie, I don’t need a collection of it for the Shrek series not in my libraries).

oh… and I missed mentioning… of course this would be even better if my self-managed collections could actually show-up in the library with icons of their own, sorting options and potentially even their own extras – not just as a filter.

Hence… everyone keep voting for those requests :wink:

It would be nice to see this get implemented. It’s the only reason I’m using Kodi still on my primary box. Really don’t understand why this would be ignored for as long as it has been.

I felt like the original summary deserves an update o:)

Post Likes Comments Views Original Date
Multiple Cuts Of Movie 726
+78
145
+15
6,600
+600
August 2012
Auto Movie Collections 303
+28
73
+1
2,300
+100
August 2012
Movie Collections 1,002
+114
363
+42
12,600
+1,700
September 2013
Virtual Dynamic Sections 152
+18
40
+3
1,500
+100
September 2013
Movie Grouping/Collections 39
+2
27
+1
359
+9
September 2014
Proper Movie Collections 18
+3
4
+1
128
+20
May 2014
Collection overhaul ideas 602
+76
132
+15
4,500
+500
March 2015
Collections inline with Movies 3
+2
5
+1
23
+1
March 2016
Movies ā€œCollectionā€ current implementation is not useful 3
+1
4
+1
42
+10
October 2016
Total 2,848
+322
793
+80
28,052
+3,040

Also… 300+ new likes in ~6 months should deserve some attention – especially considering the totals and that there’s too many ranting threads where people apparently gave up their hopes to ever see this implemented.
I desperately want to see this implemented (this and general extras for TV shows… but that’s another matter) – so please keep voting.

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I’ve been thinking about this topic for a while, trying to figure out why it might be taking so long.

It seems like there are two basic ideas being suggested.
A: Collections are presented inside existing libraries similar to a sub folder.
B: Collections are presented at the top level like we see with Playlists.

Personally I’m leaning more toward the B option with the caveat that they make it cross library compatible. I would like to create a Star Wars or Marvel, or Christmas collection, etc. that groups movies and TV shows under a single manually ordered collection.

Maybe they should implement both though so that the libraries automatically show ā€œfoldersā€ at the top for any ā€œcollectionā€ inside the library, but also a top level collection view that shows all collections together across the entire system.